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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5567</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi john,

art is definitely a bit frothy.....

Barry has had a piece on the declining ratings from Cramer´s Mad Money....

maybe the audience has discovered that there is little value ......

but when you don´t take him seriously he has some entertainer/clown qualities :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi john,</p>
<p>art is definitely a bit frothy&#8230;..</p>
<p>Barry has had a piece on the declining ratings from Cramer´s Mad Money&#8230;.</p>
<p>maybe the audience has discovered that there is little value &#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>but when you don´t take him seriously he has some entertainer/clown qualities <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5566</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NVmike -

Best of luck with your communication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NVmike -</p>
<p>Best of luck with your communication.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5565</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Retsinas, Harvard JCHS Study

&lt;blockquote&gt;

Letter To The Editor
Boston Globe

Boston-area housing affordability

Regarding &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/26943q &quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Home costs stay beyond reach of many (June 11, 2007)&lt;/a&gt;

Mr. Retsinas claims that this real estate downturn will be different than the last one.

That affordability levels of the mid-1990s will not return. And why will this downturn be different? Because of &quot;Boston&#039;s rapidly growing immigration population.&quot;

Let&#039;s think about that for a second: immigrants can&#039;t afford houses, but they&#039;re going to drive the prices up? That&#039;s ridiculous. Potential buyers who cannot afford an item don&#039;t drive the price up! They drive it DOWN.

Right now, Boston-area housing prices have fallen faster in the first 18 months of this downturn than in the prior downturn and in spite of the monthly claims from the NAR that &quot;we&#039;ve hit bottom!&quot; and &quot;it&#039;s a great time to buy! (or sell!),&quot; there is no upturn in sight and there is no credible reason for why this downturn should end differently than the last.

I believe that we will see prices return to the affordability levels of the mid-1990s.

Just one more thing: Before quoting Mr. Restinas and his Harvard JCHS as an objective source, the Globe might want to peek at the list of Board Members of the JCHS and note that every single one of those members has a vested interest in pumping up the real estate market.

[ NVmike ]

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Retsinas, Harvard JCHS Study</p>
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<p>Letter To The Editor<br />
Boston Globe</p>
<p>Boston-area housing affordability</p>
<p>Regarding <a href="http://tinyurl.com/26943q " rel="nofollow">Home costs stay beyond reach of many (June 11, 2007)</a></p>
<p>Mr. Retsinas claims that this real estate downturn will be different than the last one.</p>
<p>That affordability levels of the mid-1990s will not return. And why will this downturn be different? Because of &#8220;Boston&#8217;s rapidly growing immigration population.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s think about that for a second: immigrants can&#8217;t afford houses, but they&#8217;re going to drive the prices up? That&#8217;s ridiculous. Potential buyers who cannot afford an item don&#8217;t drive the price up! They drive it DOWN.</p>
<p>Right now, Boston-area housing prices have fallen faster in the first 18 months of this downturn than in the prior downturn and in spite of the monthly claims from the NAR that &#8220;we&#8217;ve hit bottom!&#8221; and &#8220;it&#8217;s a great time to buy! (or sell!),&#8221; there is no upturn in sight and there is no credible reason for why this downturn should end differently than the last.</p>
<p>I believe that we will see prices return to the affordability levels of the mid-1990s.</p>
<p>Just one more thing: Before quoting Mr. Restinas and his Harvard JCHS as an objective source, the Globe might want to peek at the list of Board Members of the JCHS and note that every single one of those members has a vested interest in pumping up the real estate market.</p>
<p>[ NVmike ]</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5564</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan-Martin -

Here&#039;s an interesting piece.  This &lt;em&gt;very&lt;/em&gt; mainstream source is starting to sound a bit like Mike Whitney :(

&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6748803.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Are global market bubbles set to blow?&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, by Ben Richardson, &lt;em&gt;BBC News&lt;/em&gt;, June 14, 2007.&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Flattening out&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br&gt;
&lt;br&gt;
The view of the optimists on the housing and private equity markets is not so different.
&lt;ul&gt;
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It may become more expensive to get mortgages and do deals, but that is likely to slow rather than reverse the current trend.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
Rather than the bursting of a bubble, expect a plateau of demand.
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;
...
&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Fisher#Stock_Market_Crash_of_1929&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Now where have I heard &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; one before?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan-Martin -</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interesting piece.  This <em>very</em> mainstream source is starting to sound a bit like Mike Whitney <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6748803.stm" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Are global market bubbles set to blow?&#8221;</a>, by Ben Richardson, <em>BBC News</em>, June 14, 2007.<br />
<blockquote><strong>Flattening out</strong></p>
<p>The view of the optimists on the housing and private equity markets is not so different.</p>
<ul>
<li>
It may become more expensive to get mortgages and do deals, but that is likely to slow rather than reverse the current trend.
</li>
<li>
Rather than the bursting of a bubble, expect a plateau of demand.
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<li>
&#8230;
</li>
</ul>
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Fisher#Stock_Market_Crash_of_1929" rel="nofollow">Now where have I heard <em>that</em> one before?</a></p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5563</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 11:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan-Martin (comment #17) -

Jim Cramer quote &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; out of context:

&quot;... no rigor, that has been my whole career ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan-Martin (comment #17) -</p>
<p>Jim Cramer quote <em>so</em> out of context:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; no rigor, that has been my whole career &#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5562</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 06:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Bear Stearns Cutting Its Losses?

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070613_321601.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_businessweek+exclusives</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Bear Stearns Cutting Its Losses?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070613_321601.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_businessweek+exclusives" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070613_321601.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_businessweek+exclusives</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5561</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 05:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cramer on why there is no reason to own homebuilders / flip flopping on a monthly basis.....

http://videoplayer.thestreet.com/?clipId=1373_10362333&amp;channel=Cramer+On+Demand&amp;cm_ven=&amp;cm_cat=&amp;cm_ite=&amp;puc=dm&amp;ts=1181798534250</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cramer on why there is no reason to own homebuilders / flip flopping on a monthly basis&#8230;..</p>
<p><a href="http://videoplayer.thestreet.com/?clipId=1373_10362333&#038;channel=Cramer+On+Demand&#038;cm_ven=&#038;cm_cat=&#038;cm_ite=&#038;puc=dm&#038;ts=1181798534250" rel="nofollow">http://videoplayer.thestreet.com/?clipId=1373_10362333&#038;channel=Cramer+On+Demand&#038;cm_ven=&#038;cm_cat=&#038;cm_ite=&#038;puc=dm&#038;ts=1181798534250</a></p>
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		<title>By: wcvarones</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5560</link>
		<dc:creator>wcvarones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty funny.

http://www.winknews.com/news/local/7896352.html?video=YHI&amp;t=a

$300,000 homebuyers pissed off that the builder is dumping excess inventory at auction for $180,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty funny.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.winknews.com/news/local/7896352.html?video=YHI&#038;t=a" rel="nofollow">http://www.winknews.com/news/local/7896352.html?video=YHI&#038;t=a</a></p>
<p>$300,000 homebuyers pissed off that the builder is dumping excess inventory at auction for $180,000.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5559</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 23:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This made me wince:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2qrm4y&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Subprime Crash Squeezes Out First-Time Home Buyers (Bloomberg)&lt;/a&gt;

The article explains:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;Subprime mortgage lenders have tightened credit guidelines so much they&#039;re squeezing about 500,000 first-time buyers out of the market,according to the National Association of Home Builders.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But what does that mean, exactly? How tight are the credit guidelines now?

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&quot;Tullis&#039;s latest clients are a married couple that banks ought to love. Between them they make $70,000 a year and they&#039;ve been renting the same apartment for three years with zero late payments, he said.

Lenders won&#039;t approve them because they don&#039;t have enough money in the bank, said Tullis, Virginia sales director at A. Anderson Scott Mortgage Group in Falls Church.

With mortgage companies cracking down due to rising subprime defaults, Tullis needs them to sock away two months of payments for the $500,000 townhouse in Fairfax.&quot;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, old, loose rules: no money down, no money in the bank; new, tight rules: no money down, 2 mortgage payments in the bank - and you qualify for $500K on $70K income, that&#039;s more than 7x income!

Oh yeah, this change should help end the flood of foreclosures ... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me wince:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2qrm4y" rel="nofollow">Subprime Crash Squeezes Out First-Time Home Buyers (Bloomberg)</a></p>
<p>The article explains:</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;Subprime mortgage lenders have tightened credit guidelines so much they&#8217;re squeezing about 500,000 first-time buyers out of the market,according to the National Association of Home Builders.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>But what does that mean, exactly? How tight are the credit guidelines now?</p>
<blockquote><p>
&#8220;Tullis&#8217;s latest clients are a married couple that banks ought to love. Between them they make $70,000 a year and they&#8217;ve been renting the same apartment for three years with zero late payments, he said.</p>
<p>Lenders won&#8217;t approve them because they don&#8217;t have enough money in the bank, said Tullis, Virginia sales director at A. Anderson Scott Mortgage Group in Falls Church.</p>
<p>With mortgage companies cracking down due to rising subprime defaults, Tullis needs them to sock away two months of payments for the $500,000 townhouse in Fairfax.&#8221;
</p></blockquote>
<p>So, old, loose rules: no money down, no money in the bank; new, tight rules: no money down, 2 mortgage payments in the bank &#8211; and you qualify for $500K on $70K income, that&#8217;s more than 7x income!</p>
<p>Oh yeah, this change should help end the flood of foreclosures &#8230; <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5558</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan-Martin (comment #11) -

A quarter of a billion dollars, like, wow!&lt;blockquote&gt;A Bear Stearns spokesman declined to comment. Several hedge fund managers also didn&#039;t respond to an e-mail request for a comment. But in a June 7 letter to investors, Bear Stearns says it&#039;s suspending redemptions because the &lt;strong&gt;&quot;investment manager believes the company will not have sufficient liquid assets to pay investors.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt; Bear Stearns&#039; asset management group, led by Ralph Cioffi, took the action after investors stormed the gates, &lt;strong&gt;seeking to redeem about $250 million, sources say&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan-Martin (comment #11) -</p>
<p>A quarter of a billion dollars, like, wow!<br />
<blockquote>A Bear Stearns spokesman declined to comment. Several hedge fund managers also didn&#8217;t respond to an e-mail request for a comment. But in a June 7 letter to investors, Bear Stearns says it&#8217;s suspending redemptions because the <strong>&#8220;investment manager believes the company will not have sufficient liquid assets to pay investors.&#8221;</strong> Bear Stearns&#8217; asset management group, led by Ralph Cioffi, took the action after investors stormed the gates, <strong>seeking to redeem about $250 million, sources say</strong>.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5557</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Auction Outrage in Fort Myers / Video

http://tinyurl.com/37f8xh</description>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5556</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regulators Kept Quiet as Subprime Lenders `Targeted&#039; Minorities

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&amp;sid=a6F6StSPKNig&amp;refer=home</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regulators Kept Quiet as Subprime Lenders `Targeted&#8217; Minorities</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=a6F6StSPKNig&#038;refer=home" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&#038;sid=a6F6StSPKNig&#038;refer=home</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5555</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 05:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bear Stearns&#039; Subprime Bath / BW

http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070612_748264.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear Stearns&#8217; Subprime Bath / BW</p>
<p><a href="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070612_748264.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/jun2007/db20070612_748264.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5554</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Economists See Housing Slump Enduring Longer Than Expected / free wsj link

http://www.realestatejournal.com/buysell/markettrends/20070612-hagerty.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Economists See Housing Slump Enduring Longer Than Expected / free wsj link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.realestatejournal.com/buysell/markettrends/20070612-hagerty.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.realestatejournal.com/buysell/markettrends/20070612-hagerty.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5553</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 05:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Archstone-Smith buyout a gigantic gamble: Barron&#039;s

http://forum.themarkettraders.com/read-m/8/9160/9160#msg-9160</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Archstone-Smith buyout a gigantic gamble: Barron&#8217;s</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.themarkettraders.com/read-m/8/9160/9160#msg-9160" rel="nofollow">http://forum.themarkettraders.com/read-m/8/9160/9160#msg-9160</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5552</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 04:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bust From The Past: June 2007

http://paper-money.blogspot.com/2007/06/bust-from-past-june-2007.html</description>
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<p><a href="http://paper-money.blogspot.com/2007/06/bust-from-past-june-2007.html" rel="nofollow">http://paper-money.blogspot.com/2007/06/bust-from-past-june-2007.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5551</link>
		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 03:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>john &amp; twist

thanks very much!

Effort to Advise on Risky Loans Runs Into Snag

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/12/business/12counsel.html?_r=1&amp;ref=business&amp;oref=slogin</description>
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<p>thanks very much!</p>
<p>Effort to Advise on Risky Loans Runs Into Snag</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5550</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:

RE:  Harvard Study

You have to wonder how Retsinas can reconcile saying:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s clear that we&#039;re in for a prolonged slump. Subprime lending and its implosion has certainly (delayed) any recovery.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and then say:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;The resale housing market recovery could begin later this year, while the recovery could be delayed until the end of 2008 for the new-home market.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

In my mind&lt;em&gt;&lt;b&gt; prolonged&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/b&gt; is a longer term than 6-12 months, but maybe this way Retsinas covers his bases no matter what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>RE:  Harvard Study</p>
<p>You have to wonder how Retsinas can reconcile saying:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>It&#8217;s clear that we&#8217;re in for a prolonged slump. Subprime lending and its implosion has certainly (delayed) any recovery.</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>and then say:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>The resale housing market recovery could begin later this year, while the recovery could be delayed until the end of 2008 for the new-home market.</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>In my mind<em><b> prolonged</b></em> is a longer term than 6-12 months, but maybe this way Retsinas covers his bases no matter what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5549</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further comment #4, Aaron recommends the following ...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.designs.valueinvestorinsight.com/bonus/pdf/IraSohnFinal.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Who&#039;s Holding the Bag? (PPT slide deck)&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;em&gt;Pershing Square Capital Management, L.P.&lt;/em&gt;, May 2007.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further comment #4, Aaron recommends the following &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.designs.valueinvestorinsight.com/bonus/pdf/IraSohnFinal.pdf" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Who&#8217;s Holding the Bag? (PPT slide deck)&#8221;</a>, <em>Pershing Square Capital Management, L.P.</em>, May 2007.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2007/06/11/cdoom-11jun07/#comment-5548</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 11:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jan-Martin (comment #1) -

Absolute, &lt;em&gt;I&#039;m-not-kidding&lt;/em&gt; &lt;strong&gt;*** MUST READ ***&lt;/strong&gt; post for anyone who&#039;s the least bit interested in that Fleck piece.  This is the real deal ...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2007/06/uneconomic-transactions-or-why-i-hate.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot; &#039;Uneconomic Transactions,&#039; Or Why I Hate Wall Street&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, by Tanta, &lt;em&gt;CalculatedRisk blog&lt;/em&gt;, June 10, 2007.&lt;blockquote&gt;This is the point where the Total Pains in the Ass (TPITA, a sophisticated market term) step in and bloviate about how if we didn’t have all those brave hedgies out there speculating with OPM on defaults, the bond investors wouldn’t have touched this stuff with a ten-foot pole, and then the lenders wouldn’t have made the loans because they wouldn’t have been able to hold that risk themselves, and then those borrowers wouldn’t have been given the “opportunity” to become debt-slaves on some overpriced real estate with granite countertops, if they’re lucky, or in line in bankruptcy court or evicted by the sheriff if they’re really lucky. Maybe some of you all aren’t old enough to remember how we used to have to destroy the village in order to save it, but I for one have no nostalgia for those days.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jan-Martin (comment #1) -</p>
<p>Absolute, <em>I&#8217;m-not-kidding</em> <strong>*** MUST READ ***</strong> post for anyone who&#8217;s the least bit interested in that Fleck piece.  This is the real deal &#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2007/06/uneconomic-transactions-or-why-i-hate.html" rel="nofollow">&#8221; &#8216;Uneconomic Transactions,&#8217; Or Why I Hate Wall Street&#8221;</a>, by Tanta, <em>CalculatedRisk blog</em>, June 10, 2007.<br />
<blockquote>This is the point where the Total Pains in the Ass (TPITA, a sophisticated market term) step in and bloviate about how if we didn’t have all those brave hedgies out there speculating with OPM on defaults, the bond investors wouldn’t have touched this stuff with a ten-foot pole, and then the lenders wouldn’t have made the loans because they wouldn’t have been able to hold that risk themselves, and then those borrowers wouldn’t have been given the “opportunity” to become debt-slaves on some overpriced real estate with granite countertops, if they’re lucky, or in line in bankruptcy court or evicted by the sheriff if they’re really lucky. Maybe some of you all aren’t old enough to remember how we used to have to destroy the village in order to save it, but I for one have no nostalgia for those days.</p></blockquote>
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		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>S&amp;P warns of ratings pressure on U.K. buy-to-let lenders

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sp-warns-ratings-pressure-uk/story.aspx?guid=%7BCEDEFBE2%2D27EF%2D41D3%2D9A4C%2D5F75F100D2D4%7D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>S&amp;P warns of ratings pressure on U.K. buy-to-let lenders</p>
<p><a href="http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sp-warns-ratings-pressure-uk/story.aspx?guid=%7BCEDEFBE2%2D27EF%2D41D3%2D9A4C%2D5F75F100D2D4%7D" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/sp-warns-ratings-pressure-uk/story.aspx?guid=%7BCEDEFBE2%2D27EF%2D41D3%2D9A4C%2D5F75F100D2D4%7D</a></p>
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		<title>By: jan-martin feddersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Private Equity and Market Valuation / Hester-Hussman

http://www.hussmanfunds.com/rsi/privequityval.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private Equity and Market Valuation / Hester-Hussman</p>
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		<dc:creator>jan-martin feddersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 10:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow! what a chart!

Public pension funds take a risky gamble / Fleck

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/ContrarianChronicles/PublicPensionFundsTakeARiskyGamble.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! what a chart!</p>
<p>Public pension funds take a risky gamble / Fleck</p>
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