Many thanks to L, who as always brings us some of our best links.
This video on debt in America is pretty sobering. It’s also on the long side- but it’s worth a look.
Somehow this commercial comes to mind:
Many thanks to L, who as always brings us some of our best links.
This video on debt in America is pretty sobering. It’s also on the long side- but it’s worth a look.
Somehow this commercial comes to mind:
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I’m about half way through it. So the average household owes $9,000 on their credit cards. I’d rather know what percentage of Americans owe a lot month-to-month. Some information seems very difficult to come by.
Are people spending frivolously? Are they being tricked? Is the spending on medical bills? Or on groceries after they lose their jobs? Inflation? I guess it’s all of these, but how much of each?
It’s just that I can’t fathom owing so much on credit cards!
I know it’s kind of long, but as a reader pointed out to me- if you don’t want to watch the whole thing, you should at least skip to Professor Warren’s comments at the 27 minute mark.
She said she did a presentation where she was doing a presentation to Citigroup on bankruptcy. She was telling them how if they screen the weakest customers, the one’s most in debt, you could cut bankruptcy losses by 50%. Their response- “But if we cut those people off, that’s where we make all of our profits, and we won’t make nearly as much money.”
I also recommend “Maxed Out,” a documentary available on Netflix.
I finished watching the entire video a few minutes ago.
I was blown away, could not stop watching… it is extremely powerful. If the American people finally wake up to what is happening to them, then we better be prepared for a horrific revolution. The video brings into stark detail the suffering that is finally coming to the surface for all of us to see. It will not be long before everyone will be directly impacted by the coming economic storms.
I had mixed feelings throughout the video. Tears of sadness and deep grief for those in the film who had lost everything including their loved ones, was mixed with intense anger and disgust at those who perpetuate the suffering for their own benefit. I also had to remind myself that much of the blame also lies with the fraility of the human condition. This generation was raised on being accustomed to living with debt beyond our means. We became hooked on debt, and we have been too naive to recognize that it has been taking our lives slowly but surely.
This video is a sad commentary about what we have done to ourselves with getting into this predicament. Unfortunately, the video can do very little to provide much of a glimpse of the terrifying state that we will now be heading.
Watched the whole thing. There is only one candidate in the presidential race who is addressing this issue…Ron Paul. All the others are talking about more spending so we will all be happy, this man is saying we are on a catastrophic collision course with insolvency in this country.
When will America wake up?
Davidintexas-
What this video brought home to me was the relationships between addicts, pushers and their enablers.
Ultimately the responsibility for staying straight lies with the addict- but we still try and keep the pushers off the streets to protect the young and vulnerable. Then as anyone who’s dealt with an addict knows- it’s hard to get them straight with enablers in their lives.
Debt has become an addiction in the US, and borrowers need to take responsibility for their actions. That said, I remember when it was decided to take the cigarette ads off of TV. Now I listen to the radio ads advocating, Unlock the equity in your house for that vacation you’ve always dreamed of! and I think that it’s going to be hard to get borrowers on the path to solvency without reigning in the pushers and enablers as well.
Actually, this is Maxed Out. Oops.
Get it on Netflix if you don’t want to watch the whole thing on your PC.
WC-
That’s OK- I should have mentioned the title anyway.
I watched the whole video and it was very powerful. I sold my apt. in the summer 0r 2005 to rent and wait for the bubble to burst. Now that it’s happening, it’s very bittersweet. I used to think that ignorance was bliss, but the unaware pay a big price! It’s upsetting to profit off of the weakness of others, but there’s not much else for anyone to do.
Most upsetting were the college kids who committed suicide. Of course they should have to pay the money back, but it was just too much. What a sad world.
I don’t even want to watch it, I’m already sick of the debt-addicts in ‘Merika…my family is full of them and I’ve had to “enable” my 64 year old mother to keep her butt indoors.
After re-parenting myself in my 20s I became self-sufficient and debt-free finally in my 30s and will remain that way, but it seems I did so just as the looters and moochers are kicking in high-gear.
Not a fun time to be in the USA for a honest, self-sufficient business owner…
OH BTW, my mom is filing bk on about $80,000 in personal debt that she racked up in the last 5 years after she quit her job as an administrator in medical services.
I finally convinced her to file for early SS benefits when she had maxed-out her credit and I had to start sending her money to live.
She’d tell me, “Well, I’m gonna start looking for a job”. After 4 years of sitting on her butt with no other income (3 nightmare husbands in a row, all divorced & dead), and having already spent all the money she had been flush with over the years, she finally resigned to the fact her easy-money days were over.
I’m the oldest and have 3 other siblings, all of whom are hopelessly lost in the ‘Merikan Nightmare as well…*SIGH*
Well when you read that stats that the average college student graduates with about 4k in debt this isn’t surprising.
April
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Totally depressing. I feel like it brought me bad luck. I watched this on Sunday, and today my homeowners insurance policy renewal arrived stating my rates were going up because of recent collection actions against me, late payments, and a short credit history. I have no idea what the first two are about. I’ve had credit cards since I was 20 (age 44 now) and when I took out my mortgage I was told I had the best credit score my mortgage broker had ever seen. My credit cards are paid off, and with the exception of 18 months in the last 10 years, I almost always pay off my credit card bills each month. Now they treat me like an 19 year old with an overdue credit card at the GAP.
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that my house is for sale. I’ve already had one offer from a vulture that was within a couple hundred dollars of what I owe on the mortgage. I may be paranoid, but I get the feeling the fact that the credit agencies think I’m selling out of desperation and so my credit is taking a beating.
This is a powerful message that I suspect will simply not be understood by far too many people. I think we have all gone soft and lost the ability as a nation to buckle down and do the hard work required to be fiscally healthy. I also believe what twist said regarding the addictive quality of spending. I know so many people who spend not to acquire or fill a need, but just to spend. It is as if they have a hole in them that they can never fill. And the banking industry knows this and works every angle to enable the addiction because their profits are huge. I can only hope that we individually and as a nation of people can shift out of the addiction and move toward a more frugal and basic existence despite the very powerful manipulations by banking to continue this sickness. One by one we may begin to wake up and realize that our power lies in our ability to get our own financial house in order, to spend significantly less, to realize that neither government nor business has our best interest in mind. Spread the word, flash is crass, bling will sting, the Joneses are on meth so you’ll never keep up with them.
How can we stop the madness?
oc-ed -
Here is an example of how not to stop the madness. This banking analyst (not to be confused with neo-con cheerleader James K. Glassman) is telling an OK audience that everything is just ducky, and there’s no real reason to save.
“Banker cites consumer change”, by Laurie Winslow, Tulsa World, October 4, 2007.
John M. –
Reminds me of the “new economy” BS that was bandied about during the dot bomb peak and crash. IMHO this debacle is collapsing under it’s own weight. It is a financial train wreck and statements like Glassman’s and even actions by the Fed will prove to be insufficient to bring it to a halt. They may, however, be able to slow it down marginally and allow fraudsters and banksters to find a few greater fools on the way down.
Oc-ed-
I saw something that gave me hope the other day. I was on a thread on Broker Outpost, and several of them were boasting about who had the oldest, paid for vehicle. There’s getting to be an attitude of I was frugal, when frugal wasn’t cool
I’m hoping it catches on.
oc-ed -
Those “greater fools” are likely to be 401k planholders, mutual fund clients, pensioners, insurance policy holders, and institutional investors like medical and educational endowments — in short, anyone who has money being held by some fiduciary that these fraudsters can corrupt. The State Street situation is especially alarming.
While we sleep, the pools of money set aside for our future security will likely be looted to save billionaires. There is only a tiny handful of people (Ambrose at the UK Telegraph is one) who is engaged throwing light on the process.
“Prudential Sues State Street Over Client Fund Losses”, by Josh P. Hamilton and Hugh Son, Bloomberg, October 1, 2007.
While this is s frightening expansion of the robbery from Social Security it may lead eventually to the realization that being frugal is cool like twist said. I want to believe this is happening, I really do. I’m just afraid that the drug is so powerful that it’ll take a depression to do it. Kind of like hitting bottom before we realize were drunk on this debt.
That does not let these crooks off the hook in any way. First order of business is to protect ourselves so we need to identify the crooked ones and move our money out of their control. It may be easier to identify the honest fiduciary’s. Then we expose the crooks to the masses and watch the pitch forks and torches come out of the shed. Naw, never happen, J6P is too content for now and any attempt to expose this game will be covered up or assassinated. That’s how they have played this game since I was born. I guess it is up to each of us to protect what we have from them if we can. I just get all excited when I think of the possibility of a just and honest world. Sorry to have lost my head for a moment.
oc-ed -
Speaking of robbery from Social Security (and Medicare / Medicaid; the thieves speak of “entitlements” and “mandatory programs” when they’re eying these particular huge, lightly guarded pots of cash), author and Goldman Sachs biggie Bob Hormats along with a bevy of war planners from the American Enterprise Institute, Council on Foreign Relations, and other deep thinkers want to divert these resources to defraying the costs of America’s overseas military deployments. One of several smoking guns (high on the list is Hormat’s book!) is a June AEI seminar. I’ve got links under this August 6th post which include unannotated Doom transcripts of the whole two hours. I really need to finish an annotated version to put up as a Doom page, this stuff’s important.
Thanks John, I have only gotten through the first one, but I already know I need to reread it at the risk of blowing a valve.
Thanks for posting this – really sobering indeed. I’m up in Canada and it’s no wonder our dollar is soaring against the US. Perhaps I should do as Pres. Bush says in the documentary and take a visit to Disneyworld now that my $1CAD is today worth $1.01US (and still rising), compared with previous trips where it was only worth $0.68US-$0.75US.
Scary stuff…
Heck, now that I think about it my latest trip to disneyworld was January of this year and our dollar was $0.85US – that’s quite a change in just 9 months, and the US economic picture only looks to be getting worse as the debt piles up for both consumers and the country as a whole.