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A nation that forgets its past is doomed to repeat it. - Churchill

January 5th, 2008

Phoenix: It’s Recession Time, Again

Once more I find myself disagreeing with Jay Butler of ASU’s Realty Studies.  Comparing the current bust in Phoenix with the ’70s bust:

Jay Butler has been tracking local housing numbers since 1972. And while current numbers concerning the industry might be weak, they aren’t the worst he has seen.

"The mid-’70s were pretty bad," said Butler, who directs realty studies at Arizona State University’s Polytechnic campus. "We took some nose dives then."

The reasons were different three decades ago

"We had a recession that drove the housing market down" in the 1970s, Butler said, but today "we haven’t had the economic issues yet - the recession, layoffs, other things."

 

Speaking of the current budget crisis in Arizona, the Arizona Republic stated this morning:

An economy buffeted by the housing slowdown has had a ripple effect on state budgets nationwide, as well as through many levels of local government.

"The revenue drop-off was greater than we thought," Burns said, referring to last spring, when lawmakers were crafting the current $10.6 billion budget. "We should have been much more conservative in our estimates."

Warning signs started popping up before the ink was dry on the budget. But state officials kept hoping for rosier revenue numbers through the summer, even as sales-tax and income-tax collections continued to lag.

 

It sure looks like this is shaping up as a recession, so I wouldn’t dismiss a comparison with the 1970s bust too soon.  Butler has also been stating for some time that this bust is not as bad as previous busts, even as the Phoenix housing market has continued to deteriorate.  We might not have hit the lows seen previously yet, but the market continues to head that direction.

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January 5th, 2008

Housing Downturn Slams Arizona’s Budget

This one is going to hurt:

No school groundbreaking through June. Cut most state agencies, including the universities, 10 percent. Take $100 million from the state highway fund to pay for patrol officers.

These are among $630 million in spending cuts that the Republican budget chairmen in the Legislature proposed Friday to close the state’s budget gap.

The plan by Sen. Bob Burns, R- Peoria, and Rep. Russell Pearce, R-Mesa, is a starting point for budget talks that begin Tuesday. It comes on the heels of Democratic Gov. Janet Napolitano’s budget-cutting proposal and offers a study in contrasts.

On Thursday, the governor outlined a plan that includes $214 million in spending cuts, coupled with $393 million in borrowing for school construction and a $263 million withdrawal from the state’s "rainy day fund."

In comparison, the "options" plan released Friday by the budget chairmen has triple the amount of spending cuts as proposed by the governor. It also taps $350 million from the rainy-day fund.

The reason for the slashing-

An economy buffeted by the housing slowdown has had a ripple effect on state budgets nationwide, as well as through many levels of local government.

"The revenue drop-off was greater than we thought," Burns said, referring to last spring, when lawmakers were crafting the current $10.6 billion budget. "We should have been much more conservative in our estimates."

Warning signs started popping up before the ink was dry on the budget. But state officials kept hoping for rosier revenue numbers through the summer, even as sales-tax and income-tax collections continued to lag.

 

Warning signs were popping up before that, but delusion and denial have been epidemic since the housing boom began.

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January 5th, 2008

Tucson- What are they thinking?

Hat tip to L for the latest from Tucson.  It has me scratching my head and thinking, "ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR MIND?"

A huge swath of state trust land in southeast Tucson would become a master-planned community over the next 40 years under a development deal expected to be finalized between the state and a Phoenix developer next week.

The developer, Westcor, is expected to receive a permit from the state Land Department that will allow it to begin the planning process for 12,000 acres east and south of Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, Deputy State Land Commissioner Jamie Hogue said.

Tucson officials called the project one of the biggest in the city’s history that will create a "second city" with residential and commercial development and open space.

I believe the part about the open space anyway.  Tucson already has new developments filled with specs and unwanted open spaces in the lots between them.  The article continues:

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