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	<title>Comments on: HousingDoom&#8217;s Birthplace Hit Hard&#8211; Foreclosures Up 1275% YOY In Gilbert, AZ</title>
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		<title>By: Hutch</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/07/gilbert-az-foreclosures-up-1275/comment-page-1/#comment-13923</link>
		<dc:creator>Hutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 05:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time someone says we&#039;re nearing a bottom, I just look at this chart.
http://bp3.blogger.com/_pMscxxELHEg/RxzD0s_7EYI/AAAAAAAABB4/ljDSXZhMG3o/s1600-h/IMFresets.jpg
Watching the RE debacle unfold is like watching a glacier calve icebergs. It&#039;s slow, inevitable, and occasionally, spectacular.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time someone says we&#8217;re nearing a bottom, I just look at this chart.<br />
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Watching the RE debacle unfold is like watching a glacier calve icebergs. It&#8217;s slow, inevitable, and occasionally, spectacular.</p>
<p>Igor says</p>
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		<title>By: daniaj</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is definitely the most challenging market I have seen since entering the real estate market 7 years ago.  When I entered - you breath on a mirror and you made 6 figures.  I kind of like the weed out that is occurring.  It&#039;s darwinian - only the strong will survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is definitely the most challenging market I have seen since entering the real estate market 7 years ago.  When I entered &#8211; you breath on a mirror and you made 6 figures.  I kind of like the weed out that is occurring.  It&#8217;s darwinian &#8211; only the strong will survive.</p>
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		<title>By: Hutch</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/07/gilbert-az-foreclosures-up-1275/comment-page-1/#comment-13913</link>
		<dc:creator>Hutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AZ State budget ain&#039;t faring so well either.
http://www.azleg.gov/jlbc/mfh-feb-08.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AZ State budget ain&#8217;t faring so well either.<br />
<a href="http://www.azleg.gov/jlbc/mfh-feb-08.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.azleg.gov/jlbc/mfh-feb-08.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
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		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:14:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Twist


I have acquired a great deal of knowledge from your site that helped me mention a few items concerning the foreclosure crisis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Twist</p>
<p>I have acquired a great deal of knowledge from your site that helped me mention a few items concerning the foreclosure crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
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		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surak-

The link&#039;s been added to the sidebar. : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surak-</p>
<p>The link&#8217;s been added to the sidebar. : )</p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/07/gilbert-az-foreclosures-up-1275/comment-page-1/#comment-13899</link>
		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twist, here is the link


http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/vacanthomes03072008-CR.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist, here is the link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/vacanthomes03072008-CR.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.azcentral.com/12news/news/articles/vacanthomes03072008-CR.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: brucewho</title>
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		<dc:creator>brucewho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing was ever affordable.  We were just told it was and fooled ourselves into believing so.  Live for today and borrow away.  Tommorrow is another day.  Well tomorrow is here early.  (We just lost an hour)

This is an incredibly massive problem.  Are any of the precriptions reasonable, realistic or even workable?  It will be as it will become.  Most people have no idea how dire things really are. 

We have been steaming along on the Titanic.  Then bump.  No need to worry the captain is in control.  Turns out only a very few life boats are available.  Ask yourself &quot;Do you feel lucky?&quot;  Better yet &quot;Whose your Daddy?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing was ever affordable.  We were just told it was and fooled ourselves into believing so.  Live for today and borrow away.  Tommorrow is another day.  Well tomorrow is here early.  (We just lost an hour)</p>
<p>This is an incredibly massive problem.  Are any of the precriptions reasonable, realistic or even workable?  It will be as it will become.  Most people have no idea how dire things really are. </p>
<p>We have been steaming along on the Titanic.  Then bump.  No need to worry the captain is in control.  Turns out only a very few life boats are available.  Ask yourself &#8220;Do you feel lucky?&#8221;  Better yet &#8220;Whose your Daddy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/07/gilbert-az-foreclosures-up-1275/comment-page-1/#comment-13897</link>
		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Surak will be on TV advising the borrowing Federation to make peace with the Klingon mortgage lenders.&quot;


Agnostic, it sounds like you are a Star Trek fan.  You know I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Surak will be on TV advising the borrowing Federation to make peace with the Klingon mortgage lenders.&#8221;</p>
<p>Agnostic, it sounds like you are a Star Trek fan.  You know I am.</p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
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		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twist,


I was out walking with my sister and News Channel 12 interview us concerning the negative neighborhood effects that foreclosures will have on residences/neighborhoods.  It is on AZ Central.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist,</p>
<p>I was out walking with my sister and News Channel 12 interview us concerning the negative neighborhood effects that foreclosures will have on residences/neighborhoods.  It is on AZ Central.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tc (#15) -

Yes, that&#039;s the sound of the trench-mortar under all the artillery.  What happened was the spread on agencies suddenly widened to levels not seen for about 22 years, and an anonymous Treasury Dept spokeswoman disclaimed the government&#039;s implicit guarantee on senior GSE debt.  Then Jim Cramer suggested (thanks for the tip, twist) that FNM and FRE could go to zero (that&#039;s a signal to Paulson to contradict that spokeswoman -- like now!)

Maybe it&#039;s just a temporary glitch because hedgies like Carlyle are dumping agencies because they can&#039;t dump anything else, but there is now a real possibility that even the conforming mortgage market will simply stop until Congress nationalizes Freddie and Fannie.

About $6 trillion dollars worth of MBS paper is being guaranteed by the capital of two companies whose stock price has dipped about 30 percent in the last month.  It&#039;s like AllenM says: &quot;Someday this war&#039;s gonna end.&quot;  America&#039;s sovereign debt is a &lt;i&gt;lot&lt;/i&gt; bigger than Congress thinks, and the war never was affordable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tc (#15) -</p>
<p>Yes, that&#8217;s the sound of the trench-mortar under all the artillery.  What happened was the spread on agencies suddenly widened to levels not seen for about 22 years, and an anonymous Treasury Dept spokeswoman disclaimed the government&#8217;s implicit guarantee on senior GSE debt.  Then Jim Cramer suggested (thanks for the tip, twist) that FNM and FRE could go to zero (that&#8217;s a signal to Paulson to contradict that spokeswoman &#8212; like now!)</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just a temporary glitch because hedgies like Carlyle are dumping agencies because they can&#8217;t dump anything else, but there is now a real possibility that even the conforming mortgage market will simply stop until Congress nationalizes Freddie and Fannie.</p>
<p>About $6 trillion dollars worth of MBS paper is being guaranteed by the capital of two companies whose stock price has dipped about 30 percent in the last month.  It&#8217;s like AllenM says: &#8220;Someday this war&#8217;s gonna end.&#8221;  America&#8217;s sovereign debt is a <i>lot</i> bigger than Congress thinks, and the war never was affordable.</p>
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		<title>By: manfre</title>
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		<dc:creator>manfre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I wasn&#039;t clear, I was referring to fixed 30 year and 15 year mortgage rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I wasn&#8217;t clear, I was referring to fixed 30 year and 15 year mortgage rates.</p>
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		<title>By: manfre</title>
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		<dc:creator>manfre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TC,

My brother works at a wholesale lender, so, I keep an eye on them. They have jumped about 1.25% since late January. That could be a reason the buyers have dissappeared. If the cost of borrowing money goes up roughly 20-25%, I would imagine that would have an effect on demand.

BTW, I am living proof. I live in the San Antonio area since Sept 2007 and am renting. I would like to buy this summer, but, if the math doesn&#039;t pencil out, may have to wait for a little while. From my tracking of the market, the lower priced homes and REO sales are leading the market lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TC,</p>
<p>My brother works at a wholesale lender, so, I keep an eye on them. They have jumped about 1.25% since late January. That could be a reason the buyers have dissappeared. If the cost of borrowing money goes up roughly 20-25%, I would imagine that would have an effect on demand.</p>
<p>BTW, I am living proof. I live in the San Antonio area since Sept 2007 and am renting. I would like to buy this summer, but, if the math doesn&#8217;t pencil out, may have to wait for a little while. From my tracking of the market, the lower priced homes and REO sales are leading the market lower.</p>
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		<title>By: brucewho</title>
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		<dc:creator>brucewho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 19:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You gotta know when to hold them
Know when to fold them
Know when to walk away
Know when to run...

Kenny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You gotta know when to hold them<br />
Know when to fold them<br />
Know when to walk away<br />
Know when to run&#8230;</p>
<p>Kenny</p>
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		<title>By: Tobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tc:
There was indeed a jump in buyer traffic and sales in early February.  The par rate on a 30 year fixed FNMA loan no points hit 5% for one day which may have contributed to this as there are some deals out there to be had if you are in a moderate market.  Since then the rates have risen as concerns over the falling dollar and illiquidity in the finance (not just mortgages) market increased.  I think the one day rise in mortgage rates was the third highest in 30 years.  Loans are still available, but at conforming lending standards.  There was a jump in pending sales in February, something I am sure the clowns at NAR will be touting next month when this indicator is compiled on a national basis.  However, I think many of those pendings are falling through or being extended due to financing difficulties as sales are not increasing on a seasonally adjusted basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tc:<br />
There was indeed a jump in buyer traffic and sales in early February.  The par rate on a 30 year fixed FNMA loan no points hit 5% for one day which may have contributed to this as there are some deals out there to be had if you are in a moderate market.  Since then the rates have risen as concerns over the falling dollar and illiquidity in the finance (not just mortgages) market increased.  I think the one day rise in mortgage rates was the third highest in 30 years.  Loans are still available, but at conforming lending standards.  There was a jump in pending sales in February, something I am sure the clowns at NAR will be touting next month when this indicator is compiled on a national basis.  However, I think many of those pendings are falling through or being extended due to financing difficulties as sales are not increasing on a seasonally adjusted basis.</p>
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		<title>By: metroplexual</title>
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		<dc:creator>metroplexual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russ, I interpreted it as the presidential run but you are right about the senatorial elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ, I interpreted it as the presidential run but you are right about the senatorial elections.</p>
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		<title>By: inqydesu</title>
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		<dc:creator>inqydesu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep its bad - but not as bad as this statistic makes it seem.  2006 foreclosures would be artificially low, as the boom had just hit, and those suffering finacial setbacks (lost jobs, high med bills) would have just cashed out and sold. Plus there is a long lag time between financial trouble and foreclosure.  You need to have several months late or missed payments, then another several months of proceedings.  2007 reflects the declines in 2006 and onward.  Additionally, those in 2007 saw the trend in home prices, and realizing that a quick recovery wasn&#039;t inorder, combined with bad finances, let the house foreclose.  2008 &amp; 2009 will be rough, as mortgages reset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep its bad &#8211; but not as bad as this statistic makes it seem.  2006 foreclosures would be artificially low, as the boom had just hit, and those suffering finacial setbacks (lost jobs, high med bills) would have just cashed out and sold. Plus there is a long lag time between financial trouble and foreclosure.  You need to have several months late or missed payments, then another several months of proceedings.  2007 reflects the declines in 2006 and onward.  Additionally, those in 2007 saw the trend in home prices, and realizing that a quick recovery wasn&#8217;t inorder, combined with bad finances, let the house foreclose.  2008 &amp; 2009 will be rough, as mortgages reset.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While high housing prices are definitely &quot;doomed&quot; in Gilbert, AZ and elsewhere, I will step in to say that the foreclosure jumps/percentages really can vary widely.  The number one city/zip in a state will often change five, ten, or more spots from one month to the next.  Nevertheless, it is interesting stuff.

A 46 year-old could have voted for Senator Goldwater in 1980.
AuH20 for President &#039;64 would obviously require 16 more years.

Surak, is your piece linked on this page?
http://www.azcentral.com/12news/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While high housing prices are definitely &#8220;doomed&#8221; in Gilbert, AZ and elsewhere, I will step in to say that the foreclosure jumps/percentages really can vary widely.  The number one city/zip in a state will often change five, ten, or more spots from one month to the next.  Nevertheless, it is interesting stuff.</p>
<p>A 46 year-old could have voted for Senator Goldwater in 1980.<br />
AuH20 for President &#8216;64 would obviously require 16 more years.</p>
<p>Surak, is your piece linked on this page?<br />
<a href="http://www.azcentral.com/12news/" rel="nofollow">http://www.azcentral.com/12news/</a></p>
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		<title>By: librarian_geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>librarian_geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops. on edit:

- manageable loss, not management loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops. on edit:</p>
<p>- manageable loss, not management loss.</p>
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		<title>By: librarian_geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>librarian_geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the blog.

As I&#039;m sure you and your audience well know, you were very wise to get out of the market when you did.

I also thought the prices couldn&#039;t last, but what I failed to realize was that people buying at market value for regular home loans -- not sub-prime, not condo -- would also be affected by the market correction. Shame on me.

I need to move, not because I&#039;m behind in payments or anything like that -- I just got a better job in another state.

This might sound like a radical reaction, but  at this point I feel that if I get out of this situation somewhat financially whole (break even or take a management loss), I never want to borrow money again, not even for a home.

Homes should be homes, not investments; investments are for money you can afford to lose, not for money you are borrowing. 

I&#039;m prepared to face whatever happens, of course. I made my bed and I&#039;ll lie in it. But it&#039;s really amazing how fast and hard this has all happened. At least to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the blog.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;m sure you and your audience well know, you were very wise to get out of the market when you did.</p>
<p>I also thought the prices couldn&#8217;t last, but what I failed to realize was that people buying at market value for regular home loans &#8212; not sub-prime, not condo &#8212; would also be affected by the market correction. Shame on me.</p>
<p>I need to move, not because I&#8217;m behind in payments or anything like that &#8212; I just got a better job in another state.</p>
<p>This might sound like a radical reaction, but  at this point I feel that if I get out of this situation somewhat financially whole (break even or take a management loss), I never want to borrow money again, not even for a home.</p>
<p>Homes should be homes, not investments; investments are for money you can afford to lose, not for money you are borrowing. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m prepared to face whatever happens, of course. I made my bed and I&#8217;ll lie in it. But it&#8217;s really amazing how fast and hard this has all happened. At least to me.</p>
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		<title>By: tc</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/07/gilbert-az-foreclosures-up-1275/comment-page-1/#comment-13881</link>
		<dc:creator>tc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 02:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your take on the situation.  I can&#039;t wait for day I can leave the house with dirty clothes on the floor, dishes in the sink, and an unmade bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your take on the situation.  I can&#8217;t wait for day I can leave the house with dirty clothes on the floor, dishes in the sink, and an unmade bed.</p>
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