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		<title>By: Linenoise</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11109</link>
		<dc:creator>Linenoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NVMike

Will they?  If we are indeed overbuilt on housing, then no, they won&#039;t sell.  In some areas, I believe there&#039;s simply not enough buyers.  What you&#039;re saying amounts to &quot;If you build it, they will come&quot;.. but you need to have enough jobs in the area to support the population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@NVMike</p>
<p>Will they?  If we are indeed overbuilt on housing, then no, they won&#8217;t sell.  In some areas, I believe there&#8217;s simply not enough buyers.  What you&#8217;re saying amounts to &#8220;If you build it, they will come&#8221;.. but you need to have enough jobs in the area to support the population.</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11108</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KL-

Good grief.

I couldn&#039;t believe how many homes were for sale at less than $1/sq. ft.- and you can get a palace for around $50/sq. ft.

Obviously the banks can&#039;t give these things away. This is a piece that people often forget- it doesn&#039;t just take a low price to bring up demand.  Detroit is hurting because of the lack of jobs and a declining population- it caused a housing surplus as bad as any bubble could.

If the economy of bubble areas gets hammered, which certainly is looking possible, the downward spiral will continue- and no mortgage bailout plan will fix it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KL-</p>
<p>Good grief.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t believe how many homes were for sale at less than $1/sq. ft.- and you can get a palace for around $50/sq. ft.</p>
<p>Obviously the banks can&#8217;t give these things away. This is a piece that people often forget- it doesn&#8217;t just take a low price to bring up demand.  Detroit is hurting because of the lack of jobs and a declining population- it caused a housing surplus as bad as any bubble could.</p>
<p>If the economy of bubble areas gets hammered, which certainly is looking possible, the downward spiral will continue- and no mortgage bailout plan will fix it.</p>
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		<title>By: KL</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11107</link>
		<dc:creator>KL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prices have tripled since I looked last.  This could be coming to a town near you.

http://tinyurl.com/3eytb5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prices have tripled since I looked last.  This could be coming to a town near you.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11106</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I don’t see any good solution to this. Can the banks really afford to hire a nationwide staff of people to maintain homes (because they certainly wont sell them all anytime soon)?&lt;/i&gt;

I see a GREAT solution: LOWER THE PRICES AND THEY WILL SELL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don’t see any good solution to this. Can the banks really afford to hire a nationwide staff of people to maintain homes (because they certainly wont sell them all anytime soon)?</i></p>
<p>I see a GREAT solution: LOWER THE PRICES AND THEY WILL SELL!</p>
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		<title>By: longwaver</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11105</link>
		<dc:creator>longwaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 01:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s actually pretty simple math...  Let&#039;s say you want me to buy a house and let&#039;s say I already have a house.

Well now that&#039;s a pickle...  So many rust belt cities have more homes than  they have qualified people to buy them.. So what exactly is the 11th home in a city of 10 families worth?

Well let&#039;s assume that everyone trades Up over time and the 11th house is the least desirable.

So now we need to value that gem?  Well now a home with zero mortgage costs a whole bunch of money.. Taxes, Insurance, Maintenance, liabilities out the yin yang...

So how much would you pay me to buy this house?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s actually pretty simple math&#8230;  Let&#8217;s say you want me to buy a house and let&#8217;s say I already have a house.</p>
<p>Well now that&#8217;s a pickle&#8230;  So many rust belt cities have more homes than  they have qualified people to buy them.. So what exactly is the 11th home in a city of 10 families worth?</p>
<p>Well let&#8217;s assume that everyone trades Up over time and the 11th house is the least desirable.</p>
<p>So now we need to value that gem?  Well now a home with zero mortgage costs a whole bunch of money.. Taxes, Insurance, Maintenance, liabilities out the yin yang&#8230;</p>
<p>So how much would you pay me to buy this house?</p>
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		<title>By: metroplexual</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11104</link>
		<dc:creator>metroplexual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A consistent pattern of responsible behavior usually leads to prosperity. It is also true that irrisponsible behavior leads to devastation. The main difference between the two is the pain.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism

It would seem we have lost our way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A consistent pattern of responsible behavior usually leads to prosperity. It is also true that irrisponsible behavior leads to devastation. The main difference between the two is the pain.<br />
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<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protestant_Ethic_and_the_Spirit_of_Capitalism</a></p>
<p>It would seem we have lost our way.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11103</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A consistent pattern of responsible behavior usually leads to prosperity.  It is also true that irrisponsible behavior leads to devastation.  The main difference between the two is the pain.

Do you choose to feel the pain of discipline?  It will require you to PLAN, to not be impulsive, and to live below your means TODAY in order to have prosperity TOMORROW.

Or do you choose the pain of regret?  It will allow you to live above your means, reap all the benifits of quick profit, then leave you with the mess after the good times are over.

This is essentially what this article points to.  People bought houses they could not afford because they WANTED to.  Lenders gladly forked over the money because it looked good on the books, and allowed the CEOs to get bigger bonuses.  Now, folks have lost their homes and banks are getting bailed out.  These properties have become a burden upon law enforcement, with financal responsibility shifted to the taxpayer.

We are feeling the pain of regret.

Jim is right.  The fact that this is allowed to happen is an example of our path.  And in light of the evidence, are we willing to change and choose the pain of discipline to correct the problem?  Heaven&#039;s no!  Let&#039;s postpone that as long as possible, until we can figure out another way to &#039;avoid&#039; the pain of regret.  It just makes it worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A consistent pattern of responsible behavior usually leads to prosperity.  It is also true that irrisponsible behavior leads to devastation.  The main difference between the two is the pain.</p>
<p>Do you choose to feel the pain of discipline?  It will require you to PLAN, to not be impulsive, and to live below your means TODAY in order to have prosperity TOMORROW.</p>
<p>Or do you choose the pain of regret?  It will allow you to live above your means, reap all the benifits of quick profit, then leave you with the mess after the good times are over.</p>
<p>This is essentially what this article points to.  People bought houses they could not afford because they WANTED to.  Lenders gladly forked over the money because it looked good on the books, and allowed the CEOs to get bigger bonuses.  Now, folks have lost their homes and banks are getting bailed out.  These properties have become a burden upon law enforcement, with financal responsibility shifted to the taxpayer.</p>
<p>We are feeling the pain of regret.</p>
<p>Jim is right.  The fact that this is allowed to happen is an example of our path.  And in light of the evidence, are we willing to change and choose the pain of discipline to correct the problem?  Heaven&#8217;s no!  Let&#8217;s postpone that as long as possible, until we can figure out another way to &#8216;avoid&#8217; the pain of regret.  It just makes it worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Linenoise</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11102</link>
		<dc:creator>Linenoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see any good solution to this.  Can the banks really afford to hire a nationwide staff of people to maintain homes (because they certainly wont sell them all anytime soon)?  Demolishing would be the cheap way to go - but how many neighborhoods will there be that have empty, trashed-filled lots on every block?

Ok, yeah, so the answer to the first question is the same as any company - yes, they can afford it, but the executives are too busy embezzling money in the form of bonuses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see any good solution to this.  Can the banks really afford to hire a nationwide staff of people to maintain homes (because they certainly wont sell them all anytime soon)?  Demolishing would be the cheap way to go &#8211; but how many neighborhoods will there be that have empty, trashed-filled lots on every block?</p>
<p>Ok, yeah, so the answer to the first question is the same as any company &#8211; yes, they can afford it, but the executives are too busy embezzling money in the form of bonuses.</p>
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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11101</link>
		<dc:creator>JimAtLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t the local government (i) be levying the assets of the bank to collect the property taxes, and (ii) be enforcing building code, zoning and other ordinances against these banks?  I&#039;m sure if &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; owned a structure that was visibly violating various local codes, and cost the city a lot of money, I would be summoned to court!  Threatened with fines and perhaps even prison!

The fact that this is &lt;i&gt;allowed&lt;/i&gt; to happen is an example of what America is becoming.

If an ordinary citizen doesn&#039;t pay his overwhelming taxes on time, or comply with local codes to the letter, the full weight and authority of the government are hammered down upon him, seizing his assets first maybe to be recovered at trial (which he can&#039;t pay for since the government has frozen his bank accounts), but if you&#039;re a big campaign contributing bank, or other well represented local industry like the entertainment biz here in L.A., well then, it&#039;s just a polite lamentation that it would be nice if those properties were kept up to code.

Welcome to the new America.  Welfare for large corporate interests, spite for the middle class.

Igor&#039;s word: newboss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t the local government (i) be levying the assets of the bank to collect the property taxes, and (ii) be enforcing building code, zoning and other ordinances against these banks?  I&#8217;m sure if <i>I</i> owned a structure that was visibly violating various local codes, and cost the city a lot of money, I would be summoned to court!  Threatened with fines and perhaps even prison!</p>
<p>The fact that this is <i>allowed</i> to happen is an example of what America is becoming.</p>
<p>If an ordinary citizen doesn&#8217;t pay his overwhelming taxes on time, or comply with local codes to the letter, the full weight and authority of the government are hammered down upon him, seizing his assets first maybe to be recovered at trial (which he can&#8217;t pay for since the government has frozen his bank accounts), but if you&#8217;re a big campaign contributing bank, or other well represented local industry like the entertainment biz here in L.A., well then, it&#8217;s just a polite lamentation that it would be nice if those properties were kept up to code.</p>
<p>Welcome to the new America.  Welfare for large corporate interests, spite for the middle class.</p>
<p>Igor&#8217;s word: newboss.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/03/25/lenders-abandoning-foreclosed-properties/#comment-11100</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course the lenders are walking away.

Uncle Ben is buying all their bad mortgages AT FULL PRICE.

With the bailout underway, why should lenders invest any more time, energy or money? Just walk away! It&#039;s the taxpayers&#039; problem now.

This is so unamerican.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the lenders are walking away.</p>
<p>Uncle Ben is buying all their bad mortgages AT FULL PRICE.</p>
<p>With the bailout underway, why should lenders invest any more time, energy or money? Just walk away! It&#8217;s the taxpayers&#8217; problem now.</p>
<p>This is so unamerican.</p>
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		<title>By: toysarefun</title>
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		<dc:creator>toysarefun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would the bank want to lose any more on the property than they already have?  They want a quick buck and streams of revenue.

They are not bright enough to know that the properties will be worth a mint someday.

What happened to all those contractors who wanted to buy junk houses?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would the bank want to lose any more on the property than they already have?  They want a quick buck and streams of revenue.</p>
<p>They are not bright enough to know that the properties will be worth a mint someday.</p>
<p>What happened to all those contractors who wanted to buy junk houses?</p>
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