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	<title>Comments on: Las Vegas Housing:  Not Affordable Yet, But Getting Closer</title>
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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/04/20/las-vegas-not-affordable-but-better/#comment-11627</link>
		<dc:creator>JimAtLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed Sandman, percent off peak tells it all.

In markets like SoCal (perhaps Vegas also?) that tripled or more, when we&#039;ve reached 55-60% off peak, then we&#039;ll have returned to the trend line and deals/prices may be getting reasonable, though we may follow the typical pattern of overcorrection and get even cheaper for a little while.  Still, even if you miss a bit of the overcorrection part, buying at the trend line hopefully won&#039;t kill you in the medium to long term, while buying at 30% above the trend line (where we are today) may take 10-15+ years to recover just to zero equity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Sandman, percent off peak tells it all.</p>
<p>In markets like SoCal (perhaps Vegas also?) that tripled or more, when we&#8217;ve reached 55-60% off peak, then we&#8217;ll have returned to the trend line and deals/prices may be getting reasonable, though we may follow the typical pattern of overcorrection and get even cheaper for a little while.  Still, even if you miss a bit of the overcorrection part, buying at the trend line hopefully won&#8217;t kill you in the medium to long term, while buying at 30% above the trend line (where we are today) may take 10-15+ years to recover just to zero equity.</p>
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		<title>By: foreclosure_expert</title>
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		<dc:creator>foreclosure_expert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 22:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Phoenix we are seeing a vivid picture of &quot;before&quot; and &quot;after.&quot; However, &quot;after&quot; isn&#039;t over yet:

http://www.foreclosureexpert.info/2008/04/a-tale-of-two-h.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Phoenix we are seeing a vivid picture of &#8220;before&#8221; and &#8220;after.&#8221; However, &#8220;after&#8221; isn&#8217;t over yet:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.foreclosureexpert.info/2008/04/a-tale-of-two-h.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.foreclosureexpert.info/2008/04/a-tale-of-two-h.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daddymunster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddymunster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 21:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Those homes are selling at $120 to $125 per square foot — well below the $185 per square foot parts of the market averaged at its peak in 2005.&quot;.....

This is a wonderful example of the importance of Timing. The Location is the same (Las Vegas.) Timing is a reference of Affordabilty...the peak of 2005 vrs. the down market of 2008. .......&quot;Time is Money&quot;

...Food for thought...
Sure Location is important...right? When you take affordabilty into account why aren&#039;t more buyers purchasing now (Buyer&#039;s market) especially when you consider the sheer number of homes available from which to choose ?(Supply &amp; Location)...

What determines True Affordablity? Is Afordabilty determined by one&#039;s monthly payment (&amp; whatever type of loan one can get) or is Affordabilty determined by the actual price one pays for the house?

What causes more homes to be sold during a &quot;Seller&#039;s Market than during a &quot;Buyer&#039;s market? Could part of the reasoning be that properties appreciate during a &quot;Seller&#039;s&quot; market and prices go down during a &quot;Buyer&#039;s market? Thus, during a &quot;Seller&#039;s&quot; market the property becomes more desirable creating more of a Demand? Also, during a &quot;Seller&#039;s&quot; market there is less inventory as compared to a &quot;Buyer&#039;s market. What affect does the scarcity of homes on the market have on the Buyer if any?

How much does the &quot;Mood of the market&quot; affect pricing? ..............Why?......If so, then what &quot;Mood&quot; creates the most Affordable time to purchase?

The &quot;Media&quot;...What affect does the &quot;Media&quot; have on the &quot;Mood&quot; of the market?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Those homes are selling at $120 to $125 per square foot — well below the $185 per square foot parts of the market averaged at its peak in 2005.&#8221;&#8230;..</p>
<p>This is a wonderful example of the importance of Timing. The Location is the same (Las Vegas.) Timing is a reference of Affordabilty&#8230;the peak of 2005 vrs. the down market of 2008. &#8230;&#8230;.&#8221;Time is Money&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;Food for thought&#8230;<br />
Sure Location is important&#8230;right? When you take affordabilty into account why aren&#8217;t more buyers purchasing now (Buyer&#8217;s market) especially when you consider the sheer number of homes available from which to choose ?(Supply &amp; Location)&#8230;</p>
<p>What determines True Affordablity? Is Afordabilty determined by one&#8217;s monthly payment (&amp; whatever type of loan one can get) or is Affordabilty determined by the actual price one pays for the house?</p>
<p>What causes more homes to be sold during a &#8220;Seller&#8217;s Market than during a &#8220;Buyer&#8217;s market? Could part of the reasoning be that properties appreciate during a &#8220;Seller&#8217;s&#8221; market and prices go down during a &#8220;Buyer&#8217;s market? Thus, during a &#8220;Seller&#8217;s&#8221; market the property becomes more desirable creating more of a Demand? Also, during a &#8220;Seller&#8217;s&#8221; market there is less inventory as compared to a &#8220;Buyer&#8217;s market. What affect does the scarcity of homes on the market have on the Buyer if any?</p>
<p>How much does the &#8220;Mood of the market&#8221; affect pricing? &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Why?&#8230;&#8230;If so, then what &#8220;Mood&#8221; creates the most Affordable time to purchase?</p>
<p>The &#8220;Media&#8221;&#8230;What affect does the &#8220;Media&#8221; have on the &#8220;Mood&#8221; of the market?</p>
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		<title>By: Curly Gooch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curly Gooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 19:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what professionals think most people earn.Anyone that makes $14-15 an hour cant afford $150,000 home.Now throw in a couple of kids,2 dogs,4 cats,now they cant afford $80 grand.If housing is truly going to be affordable to median wage earners the prices will have to drop another 25%.I know thats alot,and might be a pipe dream,Im just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what professionals think most people earn.Anyone that makes $14-15 an hour cant afford $150,000 home.Now throw in a couple of kids,2 dogs,4 cats,now they cant afford $80 grand.If housing is truly going to be affordable to median wage earners the prices will have to drop another 25%.I know thats alot,and might be a pipe dream,Im just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: sandman</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twist:

Thank you for continuing to include % off from the peak.  It seems like everybody is hung up on YOY differences, but those aren&#039;t useful as a global indicator of where we are in the bubble&#039;s cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twist:</p>
<p>Thank you for continuing to include % off from the peak.  It seems like everybody is hung up on YOY differences, but those aren&#8217;t useful as a global indicator of where we are in the bubble&#8217;s cycle.</p>
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