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		<title>By: inqydesu</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12180</link>
		<dc:creator>inqydesu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 16:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its like when my driver&#039;s ed teacher taught about defensive driving.  It doesn&#039;t matter if you have the right of way, cause you will be dead wrong.

In this, it really doesn&#039;t matter if it is a tenant or a squatter.  if a few hundred bucks makes them go away it is worth it.

I am sure there are groups who do &quot;squat&quot;.  Just like there are people who torch their own cars.  But just like the majority of insurance claims (at least for property damage) aren&#039;t fraud, neither are most of the &quot;squatters&quot; really there fraudulently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its like when my driver&#8217;s ed teacher taught about defensive driving.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if you have the right of way, cause you will be dead wrong.</p>
<p>In this, it really doesn&#8217;t matter if it is a tenant or a squatter.  if a few hundred bucks makes them go away it is worth it.</p>
<p>I am sure there are groups who do &#8220;squat&#8221;.  Just like there are people who torch their own cars.  But just like the majority of insurance claims (at least for property damage) aren&#8217;t fraud, neither are most of the &#8220;squatters&#8221; really there fraudulently.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12179</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 06:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Your choices are: pay them a few hundred to pack up and leave or spend 3-4 weeks and 1-2 attorneys working your way through the courts.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, and then a few thousand more to clean and repair the place.

When you pay to leave, you also offer $ to clean. It&#039;s very cost-effective.

Anyone who thinks the courts are the best way never had to forcefully evict and then clean up or repair after a bad tenant.

Sigh... If I knew then what I know now, I would have gone the cash route with my first few evictions, just like my attorney advised.

&quot;Offer them a few hundred to move their furniture onto the sidewalk and then change all the locks&quot; he said. &quot;And, if you have to, help them load the U-Haul, too.&quot;

I scoffed. I know better now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Your choices are: pay them a few hundred to pack up and leave or spend 3-4 weeks and 1-2 attorneys working your way through the courts.</i></p>
<p>Oh, and then a few thousand more to clean and repair the place.</p>
<p>When you pay to leave, you also offer $ to clean. It&#8217;s very cost-effective.</p>
<p>Anyone who thinks the courts are the best way never had to forcefully evict and then clean up or repair after a bad tenant.</p>
<p>Sigh&#8230; If I knew then what I know now, I would have gone the cash route with my first few evictions, just like my attorney advised.</p>
<p>&#8220;Offer them a few hundred to move their furniture onto the sidewalk and then change all the locks&#8221; he said. &#8220;And, if you have to, help them load the U-Haul, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>I scoffed. I know better now.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12178</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 06:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If I were a Phoenix bank and somebody pulled this, I’d immediately have the power and water shut off.&lt;/i&gt;

You need possession first.

Your choices are: pay them a few hundred to pack up and leave or spend 3-4 weeks and 1-2 attorneys working your way through the courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If I were a Phoenix bank and somebody pulled this, I’d immediately have the power and water shut off.</i></p>
<p>You need possession first.</p>
<p>Your choices are: pay them a few hundred to pack up and leave or spend 3-4 weeks and 1-2 attorneys working your way through the courts.</p>
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		<title>By: NVmike</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12177</link>
		<dc:creator>NVmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 06:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Wouldn’t this be plain old breaking-and-entering?&lt;/i&gt;

Consider the original source for the &quot;suatter&quot; angle: Realtor Magazine.

I would bet that inqydesu is right and most of these people are real, legitimate tenants whose landlords went toes up, not squatters who kicked a door in.

And to the question: why would banks pay? It&#039;s significantly cheaper and faster than the police and the courts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wouldn’t this be plain old breaking-and-entering?</i></p>
<p>Consider the original source for the &#8220;suatter&#8221; angle: Realtor Magazine.</p>
<p>I would bet that inqydesu is right and most of these people are real, legitimate tenants whose landlords went toes up, not squatters who kicked a door in.</p>
<p>And to the question: why would banks pay? It&#8217;s significantly cheaper and faster than the police and the courts.</p>
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		<title>By: sandman</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12176</link>
		<dc:creator>sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I were a Phoenix bank and somebody pulled this, I&#039;d immediately have the power and water shut off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I were a Phoenix bank and somebody pulled this, I&#8217;d immediately have the power and water shut off.</p>
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		<title>By: Linenoise</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12175</link>
		<dc:creator>Linenoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having trouble seeing how this can be a problem.  I know that many states have tough eviction laws, but these people aren&#039;t tenants.  Wouldn&#039;t this be plain old breaking-and-entering?    Can someone explain to my why they aren&#039;t immediately hauled off to jail??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble seeing how this can be a problem.  I know that many states have tough eviction laws, but these people aren&#8217;t tenants.  Wouldn&#8217;t this be plain old breaking-and-entering?    Can someone explain to my why they aren&#8217;t immediately hauled off to jail??</p>
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		<title>By: dogtownsurfer</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12174</link>
		<dc:creator>dogtownsurfer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, why the h*** not?

It is becoming more and more apparent to me that the only ones that are not going to benefit in some way from the multitude of plans, bailouts and handouts that are revolving around the housing market are those that are not in it in some way.

Renting now? Screw that.

Take a drive out to Riverside, find a yard with more weeds than grass, kick the door in and make yourself comfortable. Pretty soon someone will show up with a handful of C notes trying to entice you to move, and if they don&#039;t well, at least you have saved your rent money.

Every day I think it can&#039;t get worse and every day it does. Does that make me or everybody else crazy?

[&lt;em&gt;Slight edit- I know, I&#039;m the last prude left on the internet, but too old to change now.  T&lt;/em&gt;]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, why the h*** not?</p>
<p>It is becoming more and more apparent to me that the only ones that are not going to benefit in some way from the multitude of plans, bailouts and handouts that are revolving around the housing market are those that are not in it in some way.</p>
<p>Renting now? Screw that.</p>
<p>Take a drive out to Riverside, find a yard with more weeds than grass, kick the door in and make yourself comfortable. Pretty soon someone will show up with a handful of C notes trying to entice you to move, and if they don&#8217;t well, at least you have saved your rent money.</p>
<p>Every day I think it can&#8217;t get worse and every day it does. Does that make me or everybody else crazy?</p>
<p>[<em>Slight edit- I know, I'm the last prude left on the internet, but too old to change now.  T</em>]</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12173</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 16:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ingydesu-

There are a number of tenants who have been duped by defaulting owners.  I believe in this case however, they are talking about folks who take possession of abandoned homes and then demand payment to leave.

I encourage renters to check their local recorders office often to make sure that their landlord is paying the mortgage. [&lt;em&gt;My landlord owns my house free and clear- I checked.&lt;/em&gt;]

I feel for duped renters- the squatters are a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ingydesu-</p>
<p>There are a number of tenants who have been duped by defaulting owners.  I believe in this case however, they are talking about folks who take possession of abandoned homes and then demand payment to leave.</p>
<p>I encourage renters to check their local recorders office often to make sure that their landlord is paying the mortgage. [<em>My landlord owns my house free and clear- I checked.</em>]</p>
<p>I feel for duped renters- the squatters are a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: inqydesu</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12172</link>
		<dc:creator>inqydesu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some of these people are tenants, who were duped by defaulting owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some of these people are tenants, who were duped by defaulting owners.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/05/20/getting-paid-to-walk-away/#comment-12171</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, but it&#039;s not the bank who&#039;s paying the squatters tax.  They&#039;re just increasing the fees and passing cost on to the rest of us.

Hey, maybe the squatters could stay there forever if we banned housing evicitions!!  Sounds like a great idea to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, but it&#8217;s not the bank who&#8217;s paying the squatters tax.  They&#8217;re just increasing the fees and passing cost on to the rest of us.</p>
<p>Hey, maybe the squatters could stay there forever if we banned housing evicitions!!  Sounds like a great idea to me.</p>
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