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	<title>Comments on: Phoenix Housing Market Sets New Record- For Most Foreclosures In A Week</title>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/05/phoenix-sets-foreclosure-record/comment-page-1/#comment-17694</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 16:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arizona foreclosures frequently setting new records: the newest American bubble?

I can see the REIC spin if the 2,210 weekly number drops back to a still insanely-high 1,900. . . FORECLOSURES ARE DROPPING!  BUY NOW BEFORE PRICES RISE!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arizona foreclosures frequently setting new records: the newest American bubble?</p>
<p>I can see the REIC spin if the 2,210 weekly number drops back to a still insanely-high 1,900. . . FORECLOSURES ARE DROPPING!  BUY NOW BEFORE PRICES RISE!  <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hutch</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/05/phoenix-sets-foreclosure-record/comment-page-1/#comment-17632</link>
		<dc:creator>Hutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 05:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect a lot of these are not hitting reset when they should. The servicer will use the tax value to determine LTV and tax assessors are dragging their feet. Home owners are not going to complain if it would cost them their home.
Igor says: fail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect a lot of these are not hitting reset when they should. The servicer will use the tax value to determine LTV and tax assessors are dragging their feet. Home owners are not going to complain if it would cost them their home.<br />
Igor says: fail</p>
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		<title>By: sandman</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/05/phoenix-sets-foreclosure-record/comment-page-1/#comment-17620</link>
		<dc:creator>sandman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twist,

The problem with the graph you posted is that it was a snapshot in Jan 2007.  Since roughly 80% of Option-ARM holders are making the minimum (neg-am) payment, they&#039;ll reset much earlier, when the principal hits around 115-120% of the initial amount.  Thus, the lull we should be in now is actually the beginning of the O-A collapse.  IIRC, the numbers showed significantly rising defaults in the O-A world about 3 months ago, and they were tracking the initial stages of subprime almost exactly (same slope).

ps. That 80% number utterly floors me, but I hear it used everywhere.  Mr Mortgage regularly gives numbers that support it as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twist,</p>
<p>The problem with the graph you posted is that it was a snapshot in Jan 2007.  Since roughly 80% of Option-ARM holders are making the minimum (neg-am) payment, they&#8217;ll reset much earlier, when the principal hits around 115-120% of the initial amount.  Thus, the lull we should be in now is actually the beginning of the O-A collapse.  IIRC, the numbers showed significantly rising defaults in the O-A world about 3 months ago, and they were tracking the initial stages of subprime almost exactly (same slope).</p>
<p>ps. That 80% number utterly floors me, but I hear it used everywhere.  Mr Mortgage regularly gives numbers that support it as well.</p>
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		<title>By: jryskmpr</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/05/phoenix-sets-foreclosure-record/comment-page-1/#comment-17619</link>
		<dc:creator>jryskmpr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi: Here&#039;s a new amusing term which I find descriptive and with which you might want to acquaint your readers: 

ZOMBICONOMY: a situation in which nothing can be valued, but some transactions still take place as if things could be valued.

There are many examples of this now, and not only in housing.  Soon it will simply be the only description of the world economy.

Cheers,John Ryskamp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi: Here&#8217;s a new amusing term which I find descriptive and with which you might want to acquaint your readers: </p>
<p>ZOMBICONOMY: a situation in which nothing can be valued, but some transactions still take place as if things could be valued.</p>
<p>There are many examples of this now, and not only in housing.  Soon it will simply be the only description of the world economy.</p>
<p>Cheers,John Ryskamp</p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
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		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yossarian, 


Thanks for the insight.  People (including my parents) think that home prices in the Phoenix area have stabilized.  I do not think so.  I agree with you about the bail-out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yossarian, </p>
<p>Thanks for the insight.  People (including my parents) think that home prices in the Phoenix area have stabilized.  I do not think so.  I agree with you about the bail-out.</p>
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		<title>By: Yossarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yossarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surak:

There&#039;s another, slightly updated chart of ARM resets, floating around.  Says about the same thing.. The subprime thing peaked this past summer. 
  The next wave is the Option ARMS, which start rolling sometime this month, and peak in about a year and a half.  This wave wipes out the middle class, because they&#039;re the ones that bought 700k homes on an income of 60k per year.  Option ARMS are what made McMansions possible.
  I would feel better about the coming dissapearance/bulldozing/conversion to apartments of the McMansions, except for the wiping out of Americans. 
  And the bailout will not help. It&#039;s just money down a rathole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surak:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another, slightly updated chart of ARM resets, floating around.  Says about the same thing.. The subprime thing peaked this past summer.<br />
  The next wave is the Option ARMS, which start rolling sometime this month, and peak in about a year and a half.  This wave wipes out the middle class, because they&#8217;re the ones that bought 700k homes on an income of 60k per year.  Option ARMS are what made McMansions possible.<br />
  I would feel better about the coming dissapearance/bulldozing/conversion to apartments of the McMansions, except for the wiping out of Americans.<br />
  And the bailout will not help. It&#8217;s just money down a rathole.</p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/05/phoenix-sets-foreclosure-record/comment-page-1/#comment-17612</link>
		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 21:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twist,


Thanks for the info.  It sounds like things are going down fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist,</p>
<p>Thanks for the info.  It sounds like things are going down fast.</p>
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		<title>By: billydlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>billydlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 15:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Selection has never been better! Buy now!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Selection has never been better! Buy now!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
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		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 12:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Surak-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I believe we are actually in a bit of a lull.&#160; According to the now famous Credit Suisse reset chart, we have a lot more pain ahead:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height=&quot;428&quot; width=&quot;480&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; src=&quot;http://housingdoom.com/wp-content/uploads/image/ARM%20reset%20schedule.png&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is going to be bad for awhile.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surak-</p>
<p>I believe we are actually in a bit of a lull.&nbsp; According to the now famous Credit Suisse reset chart, we have a lot more pain ahead:</p>
<p><img height="428" width="480" alt="" src="http://housingdoom.com/wp-content/uploads/image/ARM%20reset%20schedule.png" /></p>
<p>This is going to be bad for awhile.</p>
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		<title>By: surak</title>
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		<dc:creator>surak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 07:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twist,

Is this the peak of the resets??  This is a lot of foreclosures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist,</p>
<p>Is this the peak of the resets??  This is a lot of foreclosures.</p>
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