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		<title>By: Greycap</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/16/tower-road-outrage-at-systematic-disenfranchisement/#comment-14519</link>
		<dc:creator>Greycap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 18:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MikeC:

- as for people who haven&#039;t dealt properly with address changes:
Heh - Life is tough.  It&#039;s even tougher if you&#039;re stupid!

Why the Libranols would be trying to get sheeple to vote for the Dippers is beyond me.  Maybe they used some of the Adscam money they stole from the country&#039;s coffers to buy their phone masking equipment.

We both know that the CPC would never do a thing like that! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MikeC:</p>
<p>- as for people who haven&#8217;t dealt properly with address changes:<br />
Heh &#8211; Life is tough.  It&#8217;s even tougher if you&#8217;re stupid!</p>
<p>Why the Libranols would be trying to get sheeple to vote for the Dippers is beyond me.  Maybe they used some of the Adscam money they stole from the country&#8217;s coffers to buy their phone masking equipment.</p>
<p>We both know that the CPC would never do a thing like that! <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/16/tower-road-outrage-at-systematic-disenfranchisement/#comment-14518</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the correction, freemonster.
The story was about Florida representative Tom &lt;b&gt;Feeney&lt;/b&gt; not &quot;Foley&quot;.

I was confusing the name &quot;Feeney&quot; with &quot;Foley&quot;.

Mark FOLEY, is the Republican representative who recently got resigned after admitting he was sending sexually explicit e-mails to his underage representatives.

http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/09/30/foley-resigns-amid-scandal-with-male-minors.htm

Wow, that almost beats being implicated in a man&#039;s murder, but not quite.

There&#039;s the &quot;PARTY OF FAMILY VALUES&quot; for you!! Every four years, INDEED!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the correction, freemonster.<br />
The story was about Florida representative Tom <b>Feeney</b> not &#8220;Foley&#8221;.</p>
<p>I was confusing the name &#8220;Feeney&#8221; with &#8220;Foley&#8221;.</p>
<p>Mark FOLEY, is the Republican representative who recently got resigned after admitting he was sending sexually explicit e-mails to his underage representatives.</p>
<p><a href="http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/09/30/foley-resigns-amid-scandal-with-male-minors.htm" rel="nofollow">http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2006/09/30/foley-resigns-amid-scandal-with-male-minors.htm</a></p>
<p>Wow, that almost beats being implicated in a man&#8217;s murder, but not quite.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s the &#8220;PARTY OF FAMILY VALUES&#8221; for you!! Every four years, INDEED!</p>
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		<title>By: freemonster</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/16/tower-road-outrage-at-systematic-disenfranchisement/#comment-14517</link>
		<dc:creator>freemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 12:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike C, Florida govenor TOM FOLEY? every 4 years!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike C, Florida govenor TOM FOLEY? every 4 years!</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2008/10/16/tower-road-outrage-at-systematic-disenfranchisement/#comment-14516</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 22:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly recommend http://www.bradblog.com/ for voting-related issues news and discussion, most often stuff the MSM won&#039;t touch or be very late to touch.

In recent years, the most shocking story to be unveiled at this site -that the MSM has not touched- is one involving Clint Curtis, a Florida-based programmer who was asked to write &quot;vote-rigging&quot; software for Florida Governor Tom Foley!! After Mr.Curtis blows the whistle on it, he is fired, gets veiled threats, and a government official investigating his allegations is found dead (said to be suicide, but out of nowhere grisly photos of the crime scene are found). Oh, and to top it off, the company that Mr. Curtis worked for when he was asked to write that software employs a Chinese national that has been caught in the past selling NASA secrets to the Chinese.

You&#039;d think all of this is fiction, but it is not.

Read the synopsis for yourself:
http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=3980</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly recommend <a href="http://www.bradblog.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bradblog.com/</a> for voting-related issues news and discussion, most often stuff the MSM won&#8217;t touch or be very late to touch.</p>
<p>In recent years, the most shocking story to be unveiled at this site -that the MSM has not touched- is one involving Clint Curtis, a Florida-based programmer who was asked to write &#8220;vote-rigging&#8221; software for Florida Governor Tom Foley!! After Mr.Curtis blows the whistle on it, he is fired, gets veiled threats, and a government official investigating his allegations is found dead (said to be suicide, but out of nowhere grisly photos of the crime scene are found). Oh, and to top it off, the company that Mr. Curtis worked for when he was asked to write that software employs a Chinese national that has been caught in the past selling NASA secrets to the Chinese.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d think all of this is fiction, but it is not.</p>
<p>Read the synopsis for yourself:<br />
<a href="http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=3980" rel="nofollow">http://www.bradblog.com/?page_id=3980</a></p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 19:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rest my case.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/18/washington/18scotus.html?ref=us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Justices Rule Against Ohio G.O.P. in Voting Case&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, by Adam Liptak and Ian Urbina, &lt;em&gt;New York Times&lt;/em&gt;, October 17, 2008.&lt;blockquote&gt;The Supreme Court on Friday overturned a lower court’s order requiring state officials in Ohio to supply information that &lt;strong&gt;would have made it easier to challenge prospective voters&lt;/strong&gt;. The decision was a setback for Ohio Republicans, who had sued to force the Ohio secretary of state, a Democrat, to provide information about database mismatches to county officials.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rest my case.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/18/washington/18scotus.html?ref=us" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Justices Rule Against Ohio G.O.P. in Voting Case&#8221;</a>, by Adam Liptak and Ian Urbina, <em>New York Times</em>, October 17, 2008.<br />
<blockquote>The Supreme Court on Friday overturned a lower court’s order requiring state officials in Ohio to supply information that <strong>would have made it easier to challenge prospective voters</strong>. The decision was a setback for Ohio Republicans, who had sued to force the Ohio secretary of state, a Democrat, to provide information about database mismatches to county officials.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One other thing - since the police have said that nothing illegal was done by the phone fraud, what is to stop NDP and Liberal supporters from buying phone-masking devices during the next election, and pretending to be calling from Gary Lunn&#039;s office? All they would have to do is be incredibly rude/annoying, and hang up the phone on people... And they will piss people off enough to not vote for him.

Of course, I don&#039;t condone anybody using one of those devices to pretend to be anyone, but if it isn&#039;t technically illegal, what is to stop everyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One other thing &#8211; since the police have said that nothing illegal was done by the phone fraud, what is to stop NDP and Liberal supporters from buying phone-masking devices during the next election, and pretending to be calling from Gary Lunn&#8217;s office? All they would have to do is be incredibly rude/annoying, and hang up the phone on people&#8230; And they will piss people off enough to not vote for him.</p>
<p>Of course, I don&#8217;t condone anybody using one of those devices to pretend to be anyone, but if it isn&#8217;t technically illegal, what is to stop everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greycap:
So what if, as John states, you live on a road that has recently been renamed, and thus only have ID for the old name? Is it right for your vote to be denied? One vote, who cares, right? That sure doesn&#039;t sure like democracy to me. Ask any MP that is having their votes recounted as we speak (U.Dosanjh for example) - EVERY vote counts. Especially when the people at the polling station know that what the road USED to be called, it is utter nonsense to deny somebody to vote under those circumstance.

BTW there were despicable shenanigans that played out on the West Coast, that I am surprised is not news across Canada. In a Vancouver Island riding, the NDP candidate bowed out of the race several weeks ago, but too late to have his name withdrawn from the voter cards.
The NDPs&#039; absence from the riding left the Liberal candidate a very good chance of winning the riding over the incumbent conservative Gary Lunn (Minister of Natural Resources). So, what happened?
Several days before the election, there were news reports that people in the riding were being called by others who were POSING as NDP volunteers, asking them to vote for the NDP candidate!!! Not only that, but the caller-id FRAUDULENTLY was displaying itself as a call from NDP party HQ!!! (The real NDP officials confirm it was not them doing the calling.)

Now, you&#039;d think this would be illegal, fraudulently masking your phone number to look like your political opponent&#039;s and all, wouldn&#039;t you? NO, said the local police! It would only be illegal if the caller was fraudulently obtaining money or goods.
EXCUSE ME, but if I had a choice between having money stolen from me or having my democratic right to an informed democratic vote stolen from me, it goes without saying you can have my money.

So... what is the result? A couple thousand people ended up voting for the NDP, that&#039;s what! And the convervative WON! BUT, if you add up the Liberal and NDP votes (the latter which would surely have all been Liberal if not for the fraud), Gary Lunn would be OUT. That is what SHOULD have happened.

Despicable! So much for justice, hm? Maybe I should pick up one of those devices that lets me mask my phone number to anything I want, and have at it now... since it&#039;s not illegal. I wonder how the police would feel if a bunch of people did that, pretending to be them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greycap:<br />
So what if, as John states, you live on a road that has recently been renamed, and thus only have ID for the old name? Is it right for your vote to be denied? One vote, who cares, right? That sure doesn&#8217;t sure like democracy to me. Ask any MP that is having their votes recounted as we speak (U.Dosanjh for example) &#8211; EVERY vote counts. Especially when the people at the polling station know that what the road USED to be called, it is utter nonsense to deny somebody to vote under those circumstance.</p>
<p>BTW there were despicable shenanigans that played out on the West Coast, that I am surprised is not news across Canada. In a Vancouver Island riding, the NDP candidate bowed out of the race several weeks ago, but too late to have his name withdrawn from the voter cards.<br />
The NDPs&#8217; absence from the riding left the Liberal candidate a very good chance of winning the riding over the incumbent conservative Gary Lunn (Minister of Natural Resources). So, what happened?<br />
Several days before the election, there were news reports that people in the riding were being called by others who were POSING as NDP volunteers, asking them to vote for the NDP candidate!!! Not only that, but the caller-id FRAUDULENTLY was displaying itself as a call from NDP party HQ!!! (The real NDP officials confirm it was not them doing the calling.)</p>
<p>Now, you&#8217;d think this would be illegal, fraudulently masking your phone number to look like your political opponent&#8217;s and all, wouldn&#8217;t you? NO, said the local police! It would only be illegal if the caller was fraudulently obtaining money or goods.<br />
EXCUSE ME, but if I had a choice between having money stolen from me or having my democratic right to an informed democratic vote stolen from me, it goes without saying you can have my money.</p>
<p>So&#8230; what is the result? A couple thousand people ended up voting for the NDP, that&#8217;s what! And the convervative WON! BUT, if you add up the Liberal and NDP votes (the latter which would surely have all been Liberal if not for the fraud), Gary Lunn would be OUT. That is what SHOULD have happened.</p>
<p>Despicable! So much for justice, hm? Maybe I should pick up one of those devices that lets me mask my phone number to anything I want, and have at it now&#8230; since it&#8217;s not illegal. I wonder how the police would feel if a bunch of people did that, pretending to be them?</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 01:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMO - College students haven&#039;t a brain to share amongst them. All hormones and no cognitive ability.  Let them go out in the real world for a while to wipe out all of the nonsense stuffed in their heads. Then they can vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMO &#8211; College students haven&#8217;t a brain to share amongst them. All hormones and no cognitive ability.  Let them go out in the real world for a while to wipe out all of the nonsense stuffed in their heads. Then they can vote.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freemonster -

Elections Canada has never reported an instance of voter fraud.  The bone of contention here is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.robnicholsonmp.ca/EN/3376/46293&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Bill C-31: Integrity of the Electoral Process&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, a devious bit of social engineering that systematically disenfranchises citizens whose circumstances are a bit irregular, moved, students, don&#039;t drive -- or hunt --, live in apartments as opposed to houses.  In short, Canadians less likely demographically to vote CRAP.

&quot;Worried,&quot; says Igor, and so do I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freemonster -</p>
<p>Elections Canada has never reported an instance of voter fraud.  The bone of contention here is <a href="http://www.robnicholsonmp.ca/EN/3376/46293" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Bill C-31: Integrity of the Electoral Process&#8221;</a>, a devious bit of social engineering that systematically disenfranchises citizens whose circumstances are a bit irregular, moved, students, don&#8217;t drive &#8212; or hunt &#8211;, live in apartments as opposed to houses.  In short, Canadians less likely demographically to vote CRAP.</p>
<p>&#8220;Worried,&#8221; says Igor, and so do I.</p>
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		<title>By: freemonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>freemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sounds a little too weird for me. The guy must have been a post. This whole voter disenfranchment thing is just so phony. Some people want to steal elections so bad they&#039;ll do anything. If someone gets disenfranchised you only need look who&#039;s out there illegally registering non existent voters. Happened in 2000, 2004 and now. Pleeez. Stop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds a little too weird for me. The guy must have been a post. This whole voter disenfranchment thing is just so phony. Some people want to steal elections so bad they&#8217;ll do anything. If someone gets disenfranchised you only need look who&#8217;s out there illegally registering non existent voters. Happened in 2000, 2004 and now. Pleeez. Stop it.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greycap -

Heh, I never said they were trying to stop the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;CSSA!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; ... see you again in about 10 months ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greycap -</p>
<p>Heh, I never said they were trying to stop the <a href="http://www.cdnshootingsports.org/" rel="nofollow"><em>CSSA!</em></a> &#8230; see you again in about 10 months <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Greycap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greycap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is REALLY overblown, overdone hysteria.  I worked the Canadfian Federal Election this week as a scrutineer and I saw with my own eyes the many, many different forms of identification that can be used.

The most used, and the easiest of course is a valid driver&#039;s license, but there are a ton of other ones that can be used including Social Insurance Card, OAS Card, Hunting License, Firearms License, any other kind of Government license or document, utility bills, credit card statements, etc.

If none of those is available to one, then being sponsored by someone who knows you will always work.  It sure doesn&#039;t take a whole lot of effort to vote if one really wants to vote.

This is just a bunch of wild-a**ed shrieking by someone who&#039;s nose is out of joint for who-knows-what reason.

SHEESH!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is REALLY overblown, overdone hysteria.  I worked the Canadfian Federal Election this week as a scrutineer and I saw with my own eyes the many, many different forms of identification that can be used.</p>
<p>The most used, and the easiest of course is a valid driver&#8217;s license, but there are a ton of other ones that can be used including Social Insurance Card, OAS Card, Hunting License, Firearms License, any other kind of Government license or document, utility bills, credit card statements, etc.</p>
<p>If none of those is available to one, then being sponsored by someone who knows you will always work.  It sure doesn&#8217;t take a whole lot of effort to vote if one really wants to vote.</p>
<p>This is just a bunch of wild-a**ed shrieking by someone who&#8217;s nose is out of joint for who-knows-what reason.</p>
<p>SHEESH!!!</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wait and see. the election in a few weeks will resemble the 2000 FL fiasco. hundreds of thousands of registered voters have already been struck from lists all over the country. Our system is screwed up and has got to the point where a major strategy (from BOTH sides)is to disallow as many voters as they can. The only nice thing about this election is that it will be a landslide so it wont really matter.

lol....igor says &quot;nomoney.&quot; must have known it was me posting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wait and see. the election in a few weeks will resemble the 2000 FL fiasco. hundreds of thousands of registered voters have already been struck from lists all over the country. Our system is screwed up and has got to the point where a major strategy (from BOTH sides)is to disallow as many voters as they can. The only nice thing about this election is that it will be a landslide so it wont really matter.</p>
<p>lol&#8230;.igor says &#8220;nomoney.&#8221; must have known it was me posting.</p>
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