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		<title>By: toysarefun</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15694</link>
		<dc:creator>toysarefun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their is no ship left to abandon, hit the streets, or go live with relatives.

They didnt know any better, as if their was any trust in this country left to begin with.  It&#039;s the dumb, following the dumber, following the dumbest, or something to that effect.

I get tired of hearing the excuses and whining, every story you read is full of people playing dumb.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their is no ship left to abandon, hit the streets, or go live with relatives.</p>
<p>They didnt know any better, as if their was any trust in this country left to begin with.  It&#8217;s the dumb, following the dumber, following the dumbest, or something to that effect.</p>
<p>I get tired of hearing the excuses and whining, every story you read is full of people playing dumb.</p>
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		<title>By: Hutch</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15693</link>
		<dc:creator>Hutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 09:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DocRocz ,
 There&#039;s underwater and there&#039;s Underwater. An estimated 10 million mortgages are upside down but appear affordable on paper. I think the number of homeowners that are near the breaking point is much higher than estimated. The job market continues to deteriorate. Stalled foreclosures will eventually break loose, dropping values faster and deeper. That is when the urge to &quot;abandon ship&quot; may become irresistible to a significant number.
Igor says: sad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DocRocz ,<br />
 There&#8217;s underwater and there&#8217;s Underwater. An estimated 10 million mortgages are upside down but appear affordable on paper. I think the number of homeowners that are near the breaking point is much higher than estimated. The job market continues to deteriorate. Stalled foreclosures will eventually break loose, dropping values faster and deeper. That is when the urge to &#8220;abandon ship&#8221; may become irresistible to a significant number.<br />
Igor says: sad</p>
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		<title>By: toysarefun</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15692</link>
		<dc:creator>toysarefun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heck, I just bought a new car oh well, but supposedly according to Mish, later on this year will be a better time to buy a car when deflation hits.  Why did I buy new?, because I&#039;m tired of repairs, poor service, other unknowns, and having to change cars every 4-5 years.  I still drive my old car, I love that old car, but it will have to go.

Back to homes, when I made my purchase in 2002, the inventory was garbage, everything I looked at was junk, even the newly built homes were junk, and I had to settle for the best fair priced junker I could find, because I was tired of renting, and moving, and renting, and moving, sharing laundry, bugs, noise, etc.     Now, I see homes for sale with beautiful views, the finest woodwork, foundations that were built to last forever, and yeah sure I wish I would have waited another 6-8 years to buy a home!

But, it only costs me about $1100 a month to own a home, it&#039;s not about money or declining/depreciating assets to me.  Where I live the cost of renting/buying is kind of close.

NOW, if I lived in a bigger city, FL, or CA, I&#039;d never dream of owning a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, I just bought a new car oh well, but supposedly according to Mish, later on this year will be a better time to buy a car when deflation hits.  Why did I buy new?, because I&#8217;m tired of repairs, poor service, other unknowns, and having to change cars every 4-5 years.  I still drive my old car, I love that old car, but it will have to go.</p>
<p>Back to homes, when I made my purchase in 2002, the inventory was garbage, everything I looked at was junk, even the newly built homes were junk, and I had to settle for the best fair priced junker I could find, because I was tired of renting, and moving, and renting, and moving, sharing laundry, bugs, noise, etc.     Now, I see homes for sale with beautiful views, the finest woodwork, foundations that were built to last forever, and yeah sure I wish I would have waited another 6-8 years to buy a home!</p>
<p>But, it only costs me about $1100 a month to own a home, it&#8217;s not about money or declining/depreciating assets to me.  Where I live the cost of renting/buying is kind of close.</p>
<p>NOW, if I lived in a bigger city, FL, or CA, I&#8217;d never dream of owning a home.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Ponzi</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15691</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Ponzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,

Speaking of cars... I bought my first new car in February &#039;02 as an &#039;03 Acura TL TypeS.  I am just now turning over 93K miles after almost 7 years.  It has been the best car I have ever had, bar none.  It still drives like it&#039;s new, and except for some scratches here and there, looks almost new.  I have no idea why people replace a car after 2-3 years, and I have done almost no work on the car (I&#039;d do it myself if it needed it).

Still, the point is taken.  If I owned a Ferrari, I wouldn&#039;t be richer; if I were rich, I would buy a Ferrari.  Correlation is not causation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,</p>
<p>Speaking of cars&#8230; I bought my first new car in February &#8217;02 as an &#8217;03 Acura TL TypeS.  I am just now turning over 93K miles after almost 7 years.  It has been the best car I have ever had, bar none.  It still drives like it&#8217;s new, and except for some scratches here and there, looks almost new.  I have no idea why people replace a car after 2-3 years, and I have done almost no work on the car (I&#8217;d do it myself if it needed it).</p>
<p>Still, the point is taken.  If I owned a Ferrari, I wouldn&#8217;t be richer; if I were rich, I would buy a Ferrari.  Correlation is not causation.</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15690</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slim-

Yep. That&#039;s his point. Buy a home- be richer. Look how well that plan has worked for the thousands that are going into foreclosure. But hey, maybe she figures that the brief time the homeowner could feel superior to mere renters was worth the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slim-</p>
<p>Yep. That&#8217;s his point. Buy a home- be richer. Look how well that plan has worked for the thousands that are going into foreclosure. But hey, maybe she figures that the brief time the homeowner could feel superior to mere renters was worth the ride.</p>
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		<title>By: arizonaslim</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15689</link>
		<dc:creator>arizonaslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmm, as a general rule, aren&#039;t homeowners wealthier than renters in any housing market, not just in this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmm, as a general rule, aren&#8217;t homeowners wealthier than renters in any housing market, not just in this one?</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15688</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hutch-

I&#039;m into used as well.  I love a car that has no payments! My old Ford van just turned 200K and is going strong.

I had a &#039;72 Vega when I was in college. It was rated the worst built car in America that year, and was forever having mechanical problems.  The good thing was that they were mechanical, not electronic, so I did a lot myself.

The headlights were awful to change, but I could easily change the oil and do tuneups. Now I look under the hood and I have a tough time finding the air filter.

With credit tightening now though, I wonder if cars aren&#039;t going to have to be a lot cheaper and simpler if Detroit wants to sell any. Otherwise, who will be able to afford them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hutch-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m into used as well.  I love a car that has no payments! My old Ford van just turned 200K and is going strong.</p>
<p>I had a &#8217;72 Vega when I was in college. It was rated the worst built car in America that year, and was forever having mechanical problems.  The good thing was that they were mechanical, not electronic, so I did a lot myself.</p>
<p>The headlights were awful to change, but I could easily change the oil and do tuneups. Now I look under the hood and I have a tough time finding the air filter.</p>
<p>With credit tightening now though, I wonder if cars aren&#8217;t going to have to be a lot cheaper and simpler if Detroit wants to sell any. Otherwise, who will be able to afford them?</p>
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		<title>By: Hutch</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15687</link>
		<dc:creator>Hutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am definitely into used vs new. I&#039;ve got 3 vehicles with over 175K miles each, and I put on 2/3&#039;s of that. If my son-in law ever gets one of his 2 project cars out of my way I plan to pick up a 1934 Chrysler.
Igor says: depressed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am definitely into used vs new. I&#8217;ve got 3 vehicles with over 175K miles each, and I put on 2/3&#8242;s of that. If my son-in law ever gets one of his 2 project cars out of my way I plan to pick up a 1934 Chrysler.<br />
Igor says: depressed</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15686</link>
		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hutch,

they have! everything is also made to not last as long (at least all of the little plastic crap) so you have to replace more parts. my theory is that it is all designed to keep you spending money on the vehicle (or get you to buy their maintenance plan). however, i remember headlights always being tough. had an 85 chevy hatchback in high school and it took me all day to change a headlight. at least now i can google what i want and if need be, take apart an entire new car. lol...with the internet you can now get VERY detailed instructions to do a lot of the little stuff yourself. you can also purchase the parts you need much cheaper online. i just buy the low end model of what i want and then add the bells and whistles myself (mostly audio/video junk).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hutch,</p>
<p>they have! everything is also made to not last as long (at least all of the little plastic crap) so you have to replace more parts. my theory is that it is all designed to keep you spending money on the vehicle (or get you to buy their maintenance plan). however, i remember headlights always being tough. had an 85 chevy hatchback in high school and it took me all day to change a headlight. at least now i can google what i want and if need be, take apart an entire new car. lol&#8230;with the internet you can now get VERY detailed instructions to do a lot of the little stuff yourself. you can also purchase the parts you need much cheaper online. i just buy the low end model of what i want and then add the bells and whistles myself (mostly audio/video junk).</p>
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		<title>By: Hutch</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15685</link>
		<dc:creator>Hutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off Topic; but speaking of autos, is it my imagination or have the engineers made  the costs of common maintenance skyrocket? Changing a headlight on a few models has become a bummer.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef2ae4b/1265</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off Topic; but speaking of autos, is it my imagination or have the engineers made  the costs of common maintenance skyrocket? Changing a headlight on a few models has become a bummer.<br />
<a href="http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef2ae4b/1265" rel="nofollow">http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef2ae4b/1265</a></p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>way to burst my bubble twist!!! i was convinced that i was a member of the upper class for the last 4 years since owning a home! now my neighbor lives in the exact same house/floorplan and he rents for $1000/mo. i, on the other hand, own (a debt) for about $1000/mo. and now your gonna tell me i&#039;m not 35 times more rich than my neighbor?

that&#039;s right igor...i&#039;m &quot;furious&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>way to burst my bubble twist!!! i was convinced that i was a member of the upper class for the last 4 years since owning a home! now my neighbor lives in the exact same house/floorplan and he rents for $1000/mo. i, on the other hand, own (a debt) for about $1000/mo. and now your gonna tell me i&#8217;m not 35 times more rich than my neighbor?</p>
<p>that&#8217;s right igor&#8230;i&#8217;m &#8220;furious&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
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		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZRob-

I think you&#039;ve hit upon a new marketing strategy for our ailing auto industry. : )</description>
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<p>I think you&#8217;ve hit upon a new marketing strategy for our ailing auto industry. : )</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/17/buying-a-home-doesnt-make-you-richer/#comment-15682</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toysarefun-

You need to be sufficiently capitalized, and remember the disclosure you often get from financial advisors:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;Past performance may not be indicative of future results. An increase in asset value is not guaranteed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/em&gt;

Sure there are cheaper homes out there, but it&#039;s a poor economic climate.  If you can&#039;t handle the risk, you are better off waiting on the sidelines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toysarefun-</p>
<p>You need to be sufficiently capitalized, and remember the disclosure you often get from financial advisors:</p>
<p><em><br />
<blockquote>Past performance may not be indicative of future results. An increase in asset value is not guaranteed.</p></blockquote>
<p></em></p>
<p>Sure there are cheaper homes out there, but it&#8217;s a poor economic climate.  If you can&#8217;t handle the risk, you are better off waiting on the sidelines.</p>
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		<title>By: toysarefun</title>
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		<dc:creator>toysarefun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, just take a look at the rental slums vs. the typical overpriced, overvalued home, no wonder it&#039;s 35 times more.

If someone is seriously looking to buy a home to live in, and can afford more than a rental, and the intent is to build equity in a home, then it&#039;s not a bad time to shop for a home, look at all the inventory.

The author is careful to say this, as a buyer, make sure you are sufficiently capitalized, like those 35 times more people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, just take a look at the rental slums vs. the typical overpriced, overvalued home, no wonder it&#8217;s 35 times more.</p>
<p>If someone is seriously looking to buy a home to live in, and can afford more than a rental, and the intent is to build equity in a home, then it&#8217;s not a bad time to shop for a home, look at all the inventory.</p>
<p>The author is careful to say this, as a buyer, make sure you are sufficiently capitalized, like those 35 times more people.</p>
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		<title>By: azrob</title>
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		<dc:creator>azrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the average person who owns a ferrari is 300 times richer than the average person who owns a 10 year old ford, and the average person who eats caviar 3 times a week is 1000 times richer&quot;

So, don&#039;t buy a home, go buy a ferrari and a bunch of caviar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the average person who owns a ferrari is 300 times richer than the average person who owns a 10 year old ford, and the average person who eats caviar 3 times a week is 1000 times richer&#8221;</p>
<p>So, don&#8217;t buy a home, go buy a ferrari and a bunch of caviar!</p>
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