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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15766</link>
		<dc:creator>JimAtLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on winstongator.

Of course the problem with eliminating the mortgage interest deduction is that unless you made massive tax cuts to compensate in other areas, it would effectively be a two digit percentage tax increase.  While this increase has now already been basically necessitated in the long run by the massive recent spending increases, I doubt they&#039;ll collect it this way - two much NAR and NAHB campaign funding at risk (these are two of the top 10 contributing PACs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on winstongator.</p>
<p>Of course the problem with eliminating the mortgage interest deduction is that unless you made massive tax cuts to compensate in other areas, it would effectively be a two digit percentage tax increase.  While this increase has now already been basically necessitated in the long run by the massive recent spending increases, I doubt they&#8217;ll collect it this way &#8211; two much NAR and NAHB campaign funding at risk (these are two of the top 10 contributing PACs).</p>
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		<title>By: winstongator</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15765</link>
		<dc:creator>winstongator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 02:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kedrosky does not mention the mortgage interest deduction, which few stick their neck out to eliminate.  The &#039;ideal&#039; of homeownership should be explicitly disavowed.  But it should be noted that in many cases it is not that someone should never own a home, but someone should not own this particular home, at this purchase price, at this time.  Market particulars were ignored for a while.

Asset bubbles form very nicely without gov&#039;t involvement.  Were the feds pushing no-profit, venture-capital funding burning, marginally (being generous) useful, dot-coms in the late 90&#039;s?  Lots of tech investment has been great - Intel, Cisco, Apple - but lots of dot-coms easily qualified as &quot;misallocation of capital ..., away from productive investments&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kedrosky does not mention the mortgage interest deduction, which few stick their neck out to eliminate.  The &#8216;ideal&#8217; of homeownership should be explicitly disavowed.  But it should be noted that in many cases it is not that someone should never own a home, but someone should not own this particular home, at this purchase price, at this time.  Market particulars were ignored for a while.</p>
<p>Asset bubbles form very nicely without gov&#8217;t involvement.  Were the feds pushing no-profit, venture-capital funding burning, marginally (being generous) useful, dot-coms in the late 90&#8242;s?  Lots of tech investment has been great &#8211; Intel, Cisco, Apple &#8211; but lots of dot-coms easily qualified as &#8220;misallocation of capital &#8230;, away from productive investments&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: freemonster</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15764</link>
		<dc:creator>freemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In that pie chart please take out a big slice for the fed. Way too quick in pulling the trigger regarding interest rates. Same as 10 years ago. No problem though bailing out the incompetent bankers. The fix is in. Igor says absurd</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In that pie chart please take out a big slice for the fed. Way too quick in pulling the trigger regarding interest rates. Same as 10 years ago. No problem though bailing out the incompetent bankers. The fix is in. Igor says absurd</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15763</link>
		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twist,

i like the pie chart idea. it could be fun. it could be an interactive chart that we could all vote on and watch the peices (gov&#039;t, lenders, agents, brokers, borrowers, etc) grow or shrink daily, just to see who people really feel should be blamed. and gov&#039;t would have a slice on my pie too. i just don&#039;t believe that, even with their policies that encouraged loose lending and ownership for all, that they ever held a gun to an underwriters head and said &quot;approve it.&quot; i guess i really lean towards the lenders in the blame game. they&#039;ve always required a signed 4506-t for any mortgage, but they only began ACTUALLY using those forms to get your tax transcripts in the past year. previously, it was just another signed doc to stick in the file that they never pursued. and on the &quot;liar loans,&quot; how difficult would it have been to call the employer and simply ask how much the applicant actually makes? there were just SO MANY ways that the lenders could&#039;ve verified that these borrowers WEREN&#039;T qualified and i always believed that is what underwriters are for. some buyers, would of course, still been able to commit fraud and get loans, but in most cases it wouldn&#039;t have been tough for a lender to figure out that the buyer should not qualify. they just had no incentive (other than ethics) to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twist,</p>
<p>i like the pie chart idea. it could be fun. it could be an interactive chart that we could all vote on and watch the peices (gov&#8217;t, lenders, agents, brokers, borrowers, etc) grow or shrink daily, just to see who people really feel should be blamed. and gov&#8217;t would have a slice on my pie too. i just don&#8217;t believe that, even with their policies that encouraged loose lending and ownership for all, that they ever held a gun to an underwriters head and said &#8220;approve it.&#8221; i guess i really lean towards the lenders in the blame game. they&#8217;ve always required a signed 4506-t for any mortgage, but they only began ACTUALLY using those forms to get your tax transcripts in the past year. previously, it was just another signed doc to stick in the file that they never pursued. and on the &#8220;liar loans,&#8221; how difficult would it have been to call the employer and simply ask how much the applicant actually makes? there were just SO MANY ways that the lenders could&#8217;ve verified that these borrowers WEREN&#8217;T qualified and i always believed that is what underwriters are for. some buyers, would of course, still been able to commit fraud and get loans, but in most cases it wouldn&#8217;t have been tough for a lender to figure out that the buyer should not qualify. they just had no incentive (other than ethics) to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Tobby</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15762</link>
		<dc:creator>Tobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author ascribes some great government conspiracy to the housing fiasco.  They aren&#039;t that smart.  We got here because of degregulation and a failure of existing regulation to monitor and regulate the &quot;free&quot; money that fed the boom.

  Home ownership is in fact good for America providing the borrower is responsible.  An overwhelming number of studies show much more stable negighborhoods that are owner occupied versus rented.  And yes, these studies are adjusted for demographics.

Unfortunately the government fed by money from NAR (and the fact that 63% of homeowners vote Republican)came to believe that the rising homeownership rate was even better for America.  However, simply putting someone in a home does not make them responsible citizens.  The truth is that only about 60% of Americans are responsible enough to own a home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author ascribes some great government conspiracy to the housing fiasco.  They aren&#8217;t that smart.  We got here because of degregulation and a failure of existing regulation to monitor and regulate the &#8220;free&#8221; money that fed the boom.</p>
<p>  Home ownership is in fact good for America providing the borrower is responsible.  An overwhelming number of studies show much more stable negighborhoods that are owner occupied versus rented.  And yes, these studies are adjusted for demographics.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the government fed by money from NAR (and the fact that 63% of homeowners vote Republican)came to believe that the rising homeownership rate was even better for America.  However, simply putting someone in a home does not make them responsible citizens.  The truth is that only about 60% of Americans are responsible enough to own a home.</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
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		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZSaluki-

I think to truly apportion blame, it would take a pie chart. I haven&#039;t decided what percentage of the pie that I&#039;d ascribe to government policy.  It wouldn&#039;t be 100%, but it would be a healthy slice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZSaluki-</p>
<p>I think to truly apportion blame, it would take a pie chart. I haven&#8217;t decided what percentage of the pie that I&#8217;d ascribe to government policy.  It wouldn&#8217;t be 100%, but it would be a healthy slice!</p>
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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15760</link>
		<dc:creator>JimAtLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No matter, don&#039;t worry, the good folks in the new administration have made it clear they will spend whatever it takes to artificially prop up housing prices and keep people in homes they could never pay for, even if it means the taxpayer literally paying down the principal on those loans, and keeping those who were actually responsible and saved for a place they could actually afford from being able to buy.  Homeownership for the irresponsible must be protected!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter, don&#8217;t worry, the good folks in the new administration have made it clear they will spend whatever it takes to artificially prop up housing prices and keep people in homes they could never pay for, even if it means the taxpayer literally paying down the principal on those loans, and keeping those who were actually responsible and saved for a place they could actually afford from being able to buy.  Homeownership for the irresponsible must be protected!</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/02/21/misguided-government-meddling-caused-the-mess/#comment-15759</link>
		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 17:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think i&#039;ll go that far in blaming the government. i will agree that they opened up the flood gates. However, it was still lenders that welcomed those troubled borrowers inside the gates.....and it was still the troubled borrowers that rushed in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think i&#8217;ll go that far in blaming the government. i will agree that they opened up the flood gates. However, it was still lenders that welcomed those troubled borrowers inside the gates&#8230;..and it was still the troubled borrowers that rushed in.</p>
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