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	<title>Comments on: Foreclosed On Homeowners Want $5,000 On The Way Out</title>
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		<title>By: rzyzzy</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16487</link>
		<dc:creator>rzyzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 07:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are the days we&#039;ll tell our grandkids about - assuming we still have a country in a few years.

I bought a foreclosure home last month, and I&#039;ve been collecting upgrades for a remodel after we close -  my garage is stuffed with parts and pieces of foreclosures throughout the valley.

I got a water softener from Peoria ( 6 months old, originally $1k installed) $150.  A Fisher and Paykel dishwasher from Johnson ranch, $350, A full set of Maytag stainless appliances that originally cost $4k for $1700 out of Queen creek.  I just saw an ad for a 1 yr old heat pump for $700, but I&#039;m too lazy to remove it myself - and the foreclosee won&#039;t pull it out of the attic.


My feelings are mixed about it - I certainly can&#039;t agree with trashing a house you don&#039;t own, but after writing offers on bank-owned properties, and seeing the 11-page &quot;addendum&quot; some banks are using, apparently written by Tony Soprano -  I don&#039;t feel like they are playing fair either.  I&#039;m glad I don&#039;t owe them any money and I have the freedom to tell them to stuff their unfair contracts where the sun doesn&#039;t shine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are the days we&#8217;ll tell our grandkids about &#8211; assuming we still have a country in a few years.</p>
<p>I bought a foreclosure home last month, and I&#8217;ve been collecting upgrades for a remodel after we close &#8211;  my garage is stuffed with parts and pieces of foreclosures throughout the valley.</p>
<p>I got a water softener from Peoria ( 6 months old, originally $1k installed) $150.  A Fisher and Paykel dishwasher from Johnson ranch, $350, A full set of Maytag stainless appliances that originally cost $4k for $1700 out of Queen creek.  I just saw an ad for a 1 yr old heat pump for $700, but I&#8217;m too lazy to remove it myself &#8211; and the foreclosee won&#8217;t pull it out of the attic.</p>
<p>My feelings are mixed about it &#8211; I certainly can&#8217;t agree with trashing a house you don&#8217;t own, but after writing offers on bank-owned properties, and seeing the 11-page &#8220;addendum&#8221; some banks are using, apparently written by Tony Soprano &#8211;  I don&#8217;t feel like they are playing fair either.  I&#8217;m glad I don&#8217;t owe them any money and I have the freedom to tell them to stuff their unfair contracts where the sun doesn&#8217;t shine.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16486</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not enough of a WordPress guru to figure out how to kick you off.  Have notified Admin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not enough of a WordPress guru to figure out how to kick you off.  Have notified Admin.</p>
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		<title>By: freemonster</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16485</link>
		<dc:creator>freemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, still says you are trying to log out of housing doom try again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, still says you are trying to log out of housing doom try again</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16484</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and the traditional blow-up-the-building at the end of the 3rd reel?  No problem :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; and the traditional blow-up-the-building at the end of the 3rd reel?  No problem <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16483</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asset Hunter-

It&#039;s too bad that Vincent Price and Boris Carloff aren&#039;t available anymore- they&#039;d be perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asset Hunter-</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad that Vincent Price and Boris Carloff aren&#8217;t available anymore- they&#8217;d be perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16482</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>freemonster (#4) -

Sorry your request fell through the cracks.  I was just able to log out (and back ;) )  Are you still unable to log out?  If not I&#039;ll let Admin know, and / or see if I can get you kicked out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>freemonster (#4) -</p>
<p>Sorry your request fell through the cracks.  I was just able to log out (and back <img src='http://housingdoom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )  Are you still unable to log out?  If not I&#8217;ll let Admin know, and / or see if I can get you kicked out.</p>
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		<title>By: Asset Hunter</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16481</link>
		<dc:creator>Asset Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twist -

bank rental deals and victimization assistance...
property stripping and flat fee &quot;stay as long as they let you&quot; deals...
drug houses, human smuggling...  oh, and pets!

Now just toss in a shady realtor, loan officer, appraiser, some crooked city inspectors, a dishonorable developer, and a few other of the usual suspects.

You know, someone creative could whip a 90 minute feature movie out of this one post with the right actors, and likely make a fortune!

Any suggestions from Twist and the others here on who plays what role?

The HousingDoom casting call is open!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist -</p>
<p>bank rental deals and victimization assistance&#8230;<br />
property stripping and flat fee &#8220;stay as long as they let you&#8221; deals&#8230;<br />
drug houses, human smuggling&#8230;  oh, and pets!</p>
<p>Now just toss in a shady realtor, loan officer, appraiser, some crooked city inspectors, a dishonorable developer, and a few other of the usual suspects.</p>
<p>You know, someone creative could whip a 90 minute feature movie out of this one post with the right actors, and likely make a fortune!</p>
<p>Any suggestions from Twist and the others here on who plays what role?</p>
<p>The HousingDoom casting call is open!</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;pets are OK.&quot; i&#039;m guessin meth labs, human smugglers, prostitution rings, etc are all ok too. lol. this mess just keeps gettin better!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;pets are OK.&#8221; i&#8217;m guessin meth labs, human smugglers, prostitution rings, etc are all ok too. lol. this mess just keeps gettin better!</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16479</link>
		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asset Hunter-

There are also programs to help renters &quot;victimized&quot; by having their landlord foreclosed on. [I believe a lot of them are, but clearly not in this case.] Maybe they can arrange a rental deal going forward with the lender. Or perhaps they can get their $5K back by selling the appliances, cabinets and fixtures.

It&#039;s clear that anyone wanting to be a part of this deal is gaming the system.  There&#039;s no way that this will turn out pretty in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asset Hunter-</p>
<p>There are also programs to help renters &#8220;victimized&#8221; by having their landlord foreclosed on. [I believe a lot of them are, but clearly not in this case.] Maybe they can arrange a rental deal going forward with the lender. Or perhaps they can get their $5K back by selling the appliances, cabinets and fixtures.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s clear that anyone wanting to be a part of this deal is gaming the system.  There&#8217;s no way that this will turn out pretty in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: freemonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>freemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody no why I can&#039;t logout? It keeps saying try again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody no why I can&#8217;t logout? It keeps saying try again</p>
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		<title>By: freemonster</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16477</link>
		<dc:creator>freemonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another blatant example of the shear arrogance by someone who just had a financial failure. I can&#039;t stand our banking institutions but this is just absurd. These people need to be dogged everywhere they go</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another blatant example of the shear arrogance by someone who just had a financial failure. I can&#8217;t stand our banking institutions but this is just absurd. These people need to be dogged everywhere they go</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16476</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twist -

The best bit is the fine print right at the top in red: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Avoid scams and fraud by dealing locally!&quot;&lt;/em&gt; Looks like they left out a period:

One time fee -- not.
Too good to be true

&lt;p&gt;&lt;img height=&quot;100&quot; width=&quot;650&quot; src=&quot;http://housingdoom.com/wp-content/uploads/ChandlerNot2Good.gif&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

Igor is smelling &quot;rats.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twist -</p>
<p>The best bit is the fine print right at the top in red: <em>&#8220;Avoid scams and fraud by dealing locally!&#8221;</em> Looks like they left out a period:</p>
<p>One time fee &#8212; not.<br />
Too good to be true</p>
<p><img height="100" width="650" src="http://housingdoom.com/wp-content/uploads/ChandlerNot2Good.gif" alt="" /></p>
<p>Igor is smelling &#8220;rats.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Asset Hunter</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/04/30/foreclosed-on-homeowners-rent-home-for-one-time-fee/#comment-16475</link>
		<dc:creator>Asset Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if you&#039;re unloading your U-Haul and 2 or 3 other people show up with their U-Hauls...
and you&#039;re all waving a &quot;receipt&quot; for the $5K fee...
how do you decide who actually gets to move in?

First arrival, first possession?

I wonder how many different $5K fees they could collect?

I wonder if they really &quot;own&quot; the house in the first place?

If they didn&#039;t &quot;own&quot; the house, they could collect as many $5K fees as they wanted, as long as they set the possession date off a week or so...  and skip town with all the money.

I&#039;d like to see the before and after pictures of the new tenants time there.

(You know, the new &#039;tenants&#039; could take a stab at a &quot;cash for keys&quot; deal with the bank at the end, and wind up getting most, all, or more than their $ 5K back just to move out!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if you&#8217;re unloading your U-Haul and 2 or 3 other people show up with their U-Hauls&#8230;<br />
and you&#8217;re all waving a &#8220;receipt&#8221; for the $5K fee&#8230;<br />
how do you decide who actually gets to move in?</p>
<p>First arrival, first possession?</p>
<p>I wonder how many different $5K fees they could collect?</p>
<p>I wonder if they really &#8220;own&#8221; the house in the first place?</p>
<p>If they didn&#8217;t &#8220;own&#8221; the house, they could collect as many $5K fees as they wanted, as long as they set the possession date off a week or so&#8230;  and skip town with all the money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see the before and after pictures of the new tenants time there.</p>
<p>(You know, the new &#8216;tenants&#8217; could take a stab at a &#8220;cash for keys&#8221; deal with the bank at the end, and wind up getting most, all, or more than their $ 5K back just to move out!)</p>
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