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		<title>By: mkbeats</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/07/06/fha-website-gives-misleading-information-about-reverse-mortgages/comment-page-1/#comment-20259</link>
		<dc:creator>mkbeats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting fact. Over 70% of &quot;scams&quot; against seniors are perpetrated by family. D--- them scam artists taking advantage!!! My parents gave me plenty in my life and I hope they live the rest of their years anyway they see fit--they could spend every red cent for all I care. As the article even states--these aren&#039;t for everyone (you can say that about any loan)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting fact. Over 70% of &#8220;scams&#8221; against seniors are perpetrated by family. D&#8212; them scam artists taking advantage!!! My parents gave me plenty in my life and I hope they live the rest of their years anyway they see fit&#8211;they could spend every red cent for all I care. As the article even states&#8211;these aren&#8217;t for everyone (you can say that about any loan)</p>
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		<title>By: John M.</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/07/06/fha-website-gives-misleading-information-about-reverse-mortgages/comment-page-1/#comment-20257</link>
		<dc:creator>John M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>twist -

It&#039;s been a very weird day.  The choir was just down at the Town Hall psyched up to sing the Danish National Anthem but instead the Band of the Copenhagen Police Dept started this.

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Which half of us had been singing our hearts out to at a concert with Kay Pottie last spring, so what the heck, we sang along with them.  And then I got home to this on the WSJ of all places ...

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Obviously the world has gone mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>twist -</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been a very weird day.  The choir was just down at the Town Hall psyched up to sing the Danish National Anthem but instead the Band of the Copenhagen Police Dept started this.</p>
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<p>Which half of us had been singing our hearts out to at a concert with Kay Pottie last spring, so what the heck, we sang along with them.  And then I got home to this on the WSJ of all places &#8230;</p>
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<p>Obviously the world has gone mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Linenoise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linenoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AZSALUKI -

So yes, right now, your kids will be stuck with the difference since the home likely won&#039;t sell for what theyll give you as a loan - or the estate gets stuck, technically, but same difference for most families I would think.  Yeah if you have no kids, good deal.  So it maxing out the credit cards.

Run out of money the day you die, right?

Good luck with the wife.  I&#039;m lucky, mine has figured out I&#039;m worth more alive than dead, based on my earning potential vs. my life insurance policy.  I&#039;m.. not sure where that stops being true...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AZSALUKI -</p>
<p>So yes, right now, your kids will be stuck with the difference since the home likely won&#8217;t sell for what theyll give you as a loan &#8211; or the estate gets stuck, technically, but same difference for most families I would think.  Yeah if you have no kids, good deal.  So it maxing out the credit cards.</p>
<p>Run out of money the day you die, right?</p>
<p>Good luck with the wife.  I&#8217;m lucky, mine has figured out I&#8217;m worth more alive than dead, based on my earning potential vs. my life insurance policy.  I&#8217;m.. not sure where that stops being true&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>linenoise,

it gets paid back upon the sale. it basically ensures that you won&#039;t be leaving the home to your children, unless they want to purchase it from the estate and pay off the loan. i suppose if you have no kids (or at least no kids that you wish to leave a home to) then it&#039;s not a bad idea if you want to live up your ending years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>linenoise,</p>
<p>it gets paid back upon the sale. it basically ensures that you won&#8217;t be leaving the home to your children, unless they want to purchase it from the estate and pay off the loan. i suppose if you have no kids (or at least no kids that you wish to leave a home to) then it&#8217;s not a bad idea if you want to live up your ending years?</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/07/06/fha-website-gives-misleading-information-about-reverse-mortgages/comment-page-1/#comment-20253</link>
		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it is absolutely disgusting to me to see people prey on the elderly. i&#039;ve already given permission to my wife to just &quot;take care of me&quot; once i&#039;ve lost my mind....lol....which she says she&#039;ll have no problem doing...lol. there are a FEW situations where i beleive a reverse is appropriate....but they are so few that i don&#039;t even feel people should be aware of these types of loans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is absolutely disgusting to me to see people prey on the elderly. i&#8217;ve already given permission to my wife to just &#8220;take care of me&#8221; once i&#8217;ve lost my mind&#8230;.lol&#8230;.which she says she&#8217;ll have no problem doing&#8230;lol. there are a FEW situations where i beleive a reverse is appropriate&#8230;.but they are so few that i don&#8217;t even feel people should be aware of these types of loans.</p>
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		<title>By: Linenoise</title>
		<link>http://housingdoom.com/2009/07/06/fha-website-gives-misleading-information-about-reverse-mortgages/comment-page-1/#comment-20252</link>
		<dc:creator>Linenoise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understood these loans..  granted, I&#039;ve never done any research whatsoever, but usually even the commercials on TV for things like this give you enough info to figure out the basic idea - in this case though, no.  All they ever say is &quot;sign up for this, and we give you money!&quot;.  I&#039;ve never heard anything about how the loan is paid back (or even that it IS a loan, except for the word &quot;mortgage&quot;, which immediately triggered my bs filter).

Are your kids stuck with the bill?  Does the bank just take the home at the end of the mortgage?  That would be &quot;reverse mortgage&quot; to me (well, except for the last year or so =) but I can&#039;t see the banks wanting to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood these loans..  granted, I&#8217;ve never done any research whatsoever, but usually even the commercials on TV for things like this give you enough info to figure out the basic idea &#8211; in this case though, no.  All they ever say is &#8220;sign up for this, and we give you money!&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve never heard anything about how the loan is paid back (or even that it IS a loan, except for the word &#8220;mortgage&#8221;, which immediately triggered my bs filter).</p>
<p>Are your kids stuck with the bill?  Does the bank just take the home at the end of the mortgage?  That would be &#8220;reverse mortgage&#8221; to me (well, except for the last year or so =) but I can&#8217;t see the banks wanting to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: twist</title>
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		<dc:creator>twist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slim-

The GAO&#039;s report indicated that one of the problems they had been seeing was that the promoters of these mortgages were too often all too anxious to recommend &quot;investments&quot; that borrowers could spend their money on.

That&#039;s too bad about your friend.  My great-uncle, who had always been frugal with money, would buy anything a telemarketer would pitch in the last couple of years of his life.  My poor great-aunt would try and hide the credit card, and he would be incensed.  It was a terrible strain on their budget.

He could have ended up like your friend had reverse mortgages been around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slim-</p>
<p>The GAO&#8217;s report indicated that one of the problems they had been seeing was that the promoters of these mortgages were too often all too anxious to recommend &#8220;investments&#8221; that borrowers could spend their money on.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s too bad about your friend.  My great-uncle, who had always been frugal with money, would buy anything a telemarketer would pitch in the last couple of years of his life.  My poor great-aunt would try and hide the credit card, and he would be incensed.  It was a terrible strain on their budget.</p>
<p>He could have ended up like your friend had reverse mortgages been around.</p>
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		<title>By: arizonaslim</title>
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		<dc:creator>arizonaslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twist, this paragraph hit the nail right on the head:

&quot;It is also concerning that the FHA website is clearly promoting reverse mortgages.  This, in spite of the fact that there are potential risks and reasons that a reverse mortgage may not be appropriate for some borrowers. It should be the duty of the FHA to provide potential borrowers with objective and balanced information.  Their website should be a balanced resource- not a marketing tool.&quot;

To which I&#039;d like to add:

I have an elderly friend and (now former) neighbor who took out a reverse mortgage a few years ago. 

She proceeded to go on a truly baffling spending spree. We&#039;re talking about things like signing up for one of those network marketing schemes -- and it had an initial membership fee of $2,000. She also joined a coffee bean of the month club which sent her a fancy grinder. And she wasn&#039;t a coffee drinker.

She kept saying how much fun it was to spend the money, but I couldn&#039;t help wondering if she was of sound mind.

In late 2007, she fell and broke a leg. After a stay in a rehab center, she moved in with one of her children -- he and his wife live 200 miles away. 

The house sits there, unoccupied. The family did fund a cosmetic fixup project so that it could be listed for sale.

A real estate agent&#039;s sign was posted outside the house for eight months, but no sale. The sign came down in February of this year. I&#039;m told that the house has since been foreclosed on. Vandals have also been trashing the place.

Like Igor, I think that the whole situation is revolting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twist, this paragraph hit the nail right on the head:</p>
<p>&#8220;It is also concerning that the FHA website is clearly promoting reverse mortgages.  This, in spite of the fact that there are potential risks and reasons that a reverse mortgage may not be appropriate for some borrowers. It should be the duty of the FHA to provide potential borrowers with objective and balanced information.  Their website should be a balanced resource- not a marketing tool.&#8221;</p>
<p>To which I&#8217;d like to add:</p>
<p>I have an elderly friend and (now former) neighbor who took out a reverse mortgage a few years ago. </p>
<p>She proceeded to go on a truly baffling spending spree. We&#8217;re talking about things like signing up for one of those network marketing schemes &#8212; and it had an initial membership fee of $2,000. She also joined a coffee bean of the month club which sent her a fancy grinder. And she wasn&#8217;t a coffee drinker.</p>
<p>She kept saying how much fun it was to spend the money, but I couldn&#8217;t help wondering if she was of sound mind.</p>
<p>In late 2007, she fell and broke a leg. After a stay in a rehab center, she moved in with one of her children &#8212; he and his wife live 200 miles away. </p>
<p>The house sits there, unoccupied. The family did fund a cosmetic fixup project so that it could be listed for sale.</p>
<p>A real estate agent&#8217;s sign was posted outside the house for eight months, but no sale. The sign came down in February of this year. I&#8217;m told that the house has since been foreclosed on. Vandals have also been trashing the place.</p>
<p>Like Igor, I think that the whole situation is revolting.</p>
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