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	<title>Comments on: Let The Home Buyer Tax Credit R.I.P On November 30</title>
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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimAtLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Er, I meant assuming you &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; count them as waste.

That&#039;ll teach me to proof my rants...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Er, I meant assuming you <i><b>don&#8217;t</b></i> count them as waste.</p>
<p>That&#8217;ll teach me to proof my rants&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JimAtLaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>JimAtLaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Now, instead of the program costing $8,000 per buyer, it costs $43,000. &lt;/i&gt;

Of course, the Realtors get more than $8,000 on the average sale - so you figure, the buyer gets an $8,000 benefit, the Realtor gets $12,000 (using a roughly $200k average home price), and the government is only wasting 50% or so of the money, assuming you count cash payments to their campaign contributors as &quot;waste&quot; too (and I assure you no politician or Realtor thinks that!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Now, instead of the program costing $8,000 per buyer, it costs $43,000. </i></p>
<p>Of course, the Realtors get more than $8,000 on the average sale &#8211; so you figure, the buyer gets an $8,000 benefit, the Realtor gets $12,000 (using a roughly $200k average home price), and the government is only wasting 50% or so of the money, assuming you count cash payments to their campaign contributors as &#8220;waste&#8221; too (and I assure you no politician or Realtor thinks that!).</p>
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		<title>By: AZSALUKI</title>
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		<dc:creator>AZSALUKI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 16:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would add a 4th point to say that &quot;buyers&quot; are paying a lot for very little return as well. I know a couple in chicago that are scrambling to make sure they get into a condo and close on it prior to nov 1. they are looking in the 250-300K range, and, of course, have a realtor pushing them because these condos &quot;were going for 400K 2 years ago...what a deal!!&quot; so let&#039;s say they buy one for 275K and they get the 8K credit. my math says the credit saved them a bit less than 3% of the price. i&#039;m pretty sure if they weren&#039;t in such a hurry to get the credit then they could hold out and negotiate more than a 3% drop in an asking price. the credit entitlement is another good point. one of the goals was to boost purchases this summer. if it&#039;s extended then how many potential buyers (swayed solely by the credit) will just assume the credit will be here for a long time...maybe even increase to 10-12K??? it will become no incentive to buy soon at all. it will just be one more taxpayer subsidy in the form of a credit. it&#039;s why we&#039;ll never loose the mortgage interest deduction, or the earned income credit....they&#039;ve been around for so long that it&#039;s just become a permanent part of the tax code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would add a 4th point to say that &#8220;buyers&#8221; are paying a lot for very little return as well. I know a couple in chicago that are scrambling to make sure they get into a condo and close on it prior to nov 1. they are looking in the 250-300K range, and, of course, have a realtor pushing them because these condos &#8220;were going for 400K 2 years ago&#8230;what a deal!!&#8221; so let&#8217;s say they buy one for 275K and they get the 8K credit. my math says the credit saved them a bit less than 3% of the price. i&#8217;m pretty sure if they weren&#8217;t in such a hurry to get the credit then they could hold out and negotiate more than a 3% drop in an asking price. the credit entitlement is another good point. one of the goals was to boost purchases this summer. if it&#8217;s extended then how many potential buyers (swayed solely by the credit) will just assume the credit will be here for a long time&#8230;maybe even increase to 10-12K??? it will become no incentive to buy soon at all. it will just be one more taxpayer subsidy in the form of a credit. it&#8217;s why we&#8217;ll never loose the mortgage interest deduction, or the earned income credit&#8230;.they&#8217;ve been around for so long that it&#8217;s just become a permanent part of the tax code.</p>
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